People can steal anything, if you live in a place where bike theft is a problem and leave them sitting outside - get good insurance.
As for pushing an FJR, as long as it is not to much uphill - no problem.

 

How about a link to the video.

 

I just watched this one. Don't know if it is what House Doctor saw.

 

Ride more. Stress less.

 

It's impossible to steal a bike that is being ridden, so Skooter is right here! Problem Solved

 

It's not uncommon to hear the Dual Sport guys reporting this also. Trailer hitch mounted dirt bikes and DS' on trailers parked at motel parking lots overnight are easy pickings. Don't be ignorant of the possibilities, do what you can within reason to prevent something, and then take Scoot's advice above. If they really want it, they'll get it.

 

This is what I did once near the Black Hills. Not 100% theftproof, but it at least slows em down.
I did actually back up the rest of the way after taking this photo 😊

 

I've got a disc lock which I used to attach religiously to the front disc of my FJ1200 when I'd park it on the street. I have a strong magnet attached to that lock which goes over the ignition switch when the lock is in place, so I don't forget the lock is there and try to ride off (DAMHIKIJKOK). That said: I can't remember the last time I put that lock onto the front disc of my FJR (which I've now owned for 8 years). I guess I just don't fret that much about it. It's parked overnight in a secure garage. The only time I park outdoors overnight is when I'm on the road... and then I guess I'm taking my chances.

 

Like OJ says, If they want it, it's gone.

When I travel I use a disc lock and have a Scorpion alarm. Hopefully the lock will slow them down or just make them pass. The alarm really isn't that loud, but might be noticeable enough, especially since the turn signal lights also flash . I also have the proximity module installed to protect the bags. More important though, the alarm kills the ignition so a screwdriver in the ignition lock won't allow the bike to fire.
Oh, and park next to something that might be more desirable, maybe a tricked out HD

 

Like OJ says, If they want it, it's gone.

When I travel I use a disc lock and have a Scorpion alarm. Hopefully the lock will slow them down or just make them pass. The alarm really isn't that loud, but might be noticeable enough, especially since the turn signal lights also flash . I also have the proximity module installed to protect the bags. More important though, the alarm kills the ignition so a screwdriver in the ignition lock won't allow the bike to fire.
Oh, and park next to something that might be more desirable, maybe a tricked out HD

I parked a nearly new Ducati outside a comfort inn 4 blocks from a Popeyes chicken and slept like a baby. I may have locked the column - not sure since I almost never do that

 

I do use a Zena disc lock when I travel to at least stop the amateur thieves from just quietly rolling away with it. It's sound is very noticeable so hopefully it will wake me in the middle of the night if 4 guys just pick it up and try to throw it in the back of a pick up. Then they'll have something else to deal with then.

 

Xena was one of my first alarm locks. Randomly going off all hours of the night. Had a flawed design from the start. Had no idea just how terrible it was until I bought a different brand lock/alarm. I'll never buy another Xena product ever again. The Artago with daily use is still going strong, some seven years later; having outlasted three other alarm locks. (I use more than one at a time.)

Security is about layers and it's not just what goes on/in the motorcycle. The environment is just as, if not more important.


October 14th, 2018...

TITLE:
Xena XX15 Alarm Disc Lock (JUNK)

Greetings all.

This product has a number of positives, volume, possibly battery life, but I am not a happy customer overall. Failures include toughness and sensitivity. I had purchased one of these a few years ago before finding and joining the forum and quickly had issues. There are a few design flaws that need to be fixed.

In a nutshell, it fails vibration chamber testing.
(very relevant if placing product in trunk of motorcycle)


The following are the issues I experienced, beginning with the first week of use.
I tried to return it but the Amazon reseller (playing games) claimed "parts were missing."
So I'm stuck with an expensive, crippled product.

1) The tumblers get scrambled making key insertion difficult. Have to repeatedly spend ten to thirty seconds (sometimes longer) working the key back and forth to get it fully inserted.

2) The glue (yes, I said glue,) securing the latch assembly failed. I pulled it out of the trunk and the metal "door" fell off. Was able to locate the latch cover and latch pin in the trunk, but never located the latch pin spring. (missing part #1) Without this door in place, the alarm unit will not see the reflective latch cover, causing it stay armed. Move it, bump it, touch it, get treated to an ear-piercing song serenade.

3) The captive screw holding the alarm unit in place backed out. The first evidence of this was having the thing constantly going off in the trunk; and I wasn't in a position to safely pull over and deal with it until 10 minutes later. Never located that screw or a suitable beveled-head replacement. (missing part #2) Fortunately I wear ear plugs and was able to use a key to disassemble the unit and remove the battery.


PARTIAL MITIGATION:
Riding with it on you, such as in a bag, mitigates these issues. But this is inconvenient, and unsafe if you're not carrying a bag.

Re #1, found that pushing the tumbler back into the secure position post removal seems to help a bit.

Re #2, was able to find, cut, and use a spring from (an expensive) writing pen, as a replacement for the unit's latch pin. Then tried re-gluing it, (with Cyanoacrylate and later JB Weld Epoxy,) but like the original, (an epoxy,) didn't last long. In addition, they expand while curing, causing fitment issues. Gluing metals together is simply not a good idea. You need to tack the "latch pin cover" it in place using spot-welds. Even then you still need to do some serious vibration chamber testing to verify that this idea works well enough.

Re #3, was able to bend some bare wire into somewhat of a "MW" shape to help retain the alarm unit. But it's kludgy and unreliable; falls out of place resulting with annoyance alarms. Include with your product, a tiny packet of thread-locker compound and a warning label containing a torque specification; perhaps a backup screw even. It's already finely threaded so that was properly engineered. Perhaps a deeper tap and longer screw length might prevent a full back-out as it will be stopped by the product's service door.

Minus these critical design flaws, I would highly recommend the product. The product is way too expensive to have these issues.



Artago Disc Locks are far, far, far, far superior... perhaps with exception to loudness.

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As any locksmith will tell you - Locks are for HONEST PEOPLE

 

My neighbor had a small Kawasaki dirt bike sitting on his parking lot in my alleyway. It was there for years, and I guess someone noticed it. One December morning a pickup truck pulls up - my dog barks. I'm working from home so after maybe 20 seconds I get up from my chair just to see the truck leave. I didn't get the license plate - but it was a new fancy large truck. Two guys could simply lift that small bike into the bed in 20 seconds...

 

Well, nobody really wants an FJR any more..... sorry, but not the most desirable bike for a thief. In all my years here I think I've heard of a grand total of 2 that were stolen, 1 ridden and crashed, the other presumably parted out. Ride more, stress less, and sure, take precautions when on a road trip. Some hotels will let you park in the canopy at the front office where there's a window and a person manning the desk... bit of a deterrent.

 

The FJR is definitely a niche bike. Outside of the FJR owners, I'd venture to guess a lot of other motorcyclists don't even know what an FJR is. It's old tech, not the flashiest, not the fastest, not the best handling. Some FJR guys have the FJR up so high on a pedestal that they'd just as soon give up riding if they can't ride an FJR. I'll keep mine for a good while; it's paid for, ultra reliable, fast enough to make me smile, handles well enough for the backroad riding I do, and looks & sounds decent. But....if I could have any new bike, I'd head straight for the MT-10SP.

 

Theft of any kind is just a representation of the shit hole world we live in…..locks only keep honest people honest

 

You work hard to have nice things to do the things that you enjoy on our limited free time,and you gotta worry about maybe some Assholes want to take what you have. It really is pretty sick.
I think our Justice System is weak. I doesn't teach anything to criminals. And we're just talking about our beloved Bikes.
I live in a Rural area,and I take every precaution. But is someone wants my property, and I'm home when it happens someone will be bleeding.

 

Get AirTags. Hide them under the fairings or under the seat fabric or someplace nobody would ever look.

 

In some areas of the UK the police, who are only able to arrest people who post 'the truth' on X , say that motorcyclists should use 2 locks on their bikes. J D Vance in his criticisum of a crack down on free speech in the UK is spot on.

 

 

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A Moderator says, "If folks continue down a political, ideological or any other rabbit hole, this thread will be locked. None of us wants that. Gripes about judicial systems, protests, recommendations or suggestions of shooting people or punishment, etc. is inappropriate here. Please consider the potential legal ramifications of your public statements. You CAN be held accountable should some unfortunate incident occur."

He also recommends, "Keep it light: discuss specific means to prevent theft of bike or gear, or maybe the results of such a theft. Discuss in the first person- what YOU do with YOUR stuff, your PERSONAL experience(s) with theft, etc. and not what "the system" is lacking, should do, or how it should be done.

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A Moderator says, "If folks continue down a political, ideological or any other rabbit hole, this thread will be locked. None of us wants that. Gripes about judicial systems, protests, recommendations or suggestions of shooting people or punishment, etc. is inappropriate here. Please consider the potential legal ramifications of your public statements. You CAN be held accountable should some unfortunate incident occur."

He also recommends, "Keep it light: discuss specific means to prevent theft of bike or gear, or maybe the results of such a theft. Discuss in the first person- what YOU do with YOUR stuff, your PERSONAL experience(s) with theft, etc. and not what "the system" is lacking, should do, or how it should be done.

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Im more worried about my gear getting legs. I have to stop often & walk around a lot while on the road. I take the gear off & move around & stretch out. Im mostly concerned about the helmet. The suit was kinda expensive but Im willing to take the chance leaving it on the bike for a while. Ill put the half cover on it & wedge the suit under it if its going to be a long walk. I paid way to much for the helmet so I need to find some kinda lock for that

 

Jim, are you aware of Scott's locks? Easy install and I've got them keyed to the bike key. I use it whenever I'm not comfortable leaving the helmet sitting out in the open, maybe about a third of the time.

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No top box? That's where my helmet goes when I make stops. Maybe use a cable lock thru the chin bar and grab handles?

 

I have heard about all these issues with the Zena. It was a gift from the wifey. I must have gotten lucky because I haven't had any.

 

I keep a retractable cable lock like this in my jacket pocket. Run it through the chin bar and around the grab rail, and it is a little harder to steal.
I usually walk around with my jacket, but I can also run the cable through the sleeve of the jacket, along with the helmet.
For a stronger cable, try the 1/2" bike lock!

 

One of the down sides about trailering is you gotta worry about the filth taking your trailer. I had a bad feeling at a motel out in Great Falls Mt. so I got a tongue lock, I unhooked & went sight seeing, I know a thief can figure that one out but it survived the night. The guy parked next to me wasnt so lucky, they cut his lock & took 2 mountain bikes, about $7000 worth. Roughly the same value as my trailer. The insurance is surprisingly cheap for the trailer $17 a yr, but still would be a pain in the ass losing it when your way out there.

 

For the trailer that I tow with the bike - I use the wheel lock (that clamps around the wheel), the receiver lock to make the ball inaccessible and the tongue lock to make the receiver lock harder to get off. It's small enough they could pick it up and put in a box truck or on a flatbed (just like the bike...the trailer loaded is ~300 hundred pounds)...but it's what I can do!

 

They say many crimes are committed out of a sense of "opportunity". If everyone leaves their residential home doors unlocked, there would be more home invasions. It's not simply because the doors are unlocked, it's also because people become aware of the opportunity.

For example, it has been a common enough occurrence here that people or their passenger leave a car door unlocked. Result has been, kids combing the neighborhoods just pulling on car handles overnights; and this hit the news these past couple of Spings/Summers. Less reports on passive intrusions, I suspect more people are consistently remembering to lock their vehicles now. (but human nature being what it is, there will always be some)

Bottom line is, making it easier for criminals and would-be criminals, has the potential side-effect of making security tougher from everyone. Countries with lower taxes and resources for active law enforcement can certainly be an example of this; where gangs openly hijack armored currency transports in broad daylight.

Tangent: Recently started joking with my Brother about his neighbor-kids being adopted. The kids when out (which is most of the day lately) would immediately gravitate to him. The little boy would want to do things for money and the little girl draws on his sidewalks and just generally "pester" him; funny to witness. (mildly annoying to be the direct target of it 😂) Well, lately he's had to start closing and locking his doors as his adopted neighbor kids have started letting themselves right in. 🤣 I told him he has to start being less entertaining to them.

 

They say many crimes are committed out of a sense of "opportunity". If everyone leaves their residential home doors unlocked, there would be more home invasions. It's not simply because the doors are unlocked, it's also because people become aware of the opportunity.

For example, it has been a common enough occurrence here that people or their passenger leave a car door unlocked. Result has been, kids combing the neighborhoods just pulling on car handles overnights; and this hit the news these past couple of Spingtive law enforcement can certainly be an example of this; where gangs openly hijack armored currency transports in broad daylight.

Tangent: Recently started joking with my Brother about his neighbor-kids being adopted. The kids when out (which is most of the day lately) would immediately gravitate to him. The little boy would want to do things for money and the little girl draws on his sidewalks and just generally "pester" him; funny to witness. (mildly annoying to be the direct target of it 😂) Well, lately he's had to star
s/Summers. Less reports on passive intrusions, I suspect more people are consistently remembering to lock their vehicles now. (but human nature being what it is, there will always be some)

Bottom line is, making it easier for criminals and would-be criminals, has the potential side-effect of making security tougher from everyone. Countries with lower taxes and resources for ac
t closing and locking his doors as his adopted neighbor kids have started letting themselves right in. 🤣 I told him he has to start being less entertaining to them.

In my old neighborhood you had to remember to leave the truck unlocked unless you want your windows broke out. Id rather have my truck rifled through than get windows broke out or get shot fighting them off, or shoot them, either way you lose. As far as the house goes, best solution............. big fucking dog. When you go out walking you aint the one whos gonna be crossing to the other side of the street. Without my dogs I woulda been toast for sure.