Tire Help Please

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Gray Squall

Discussion Starter · Mar 30, 2021

I have been waiting for these to make it to the US. Anyone seen an actual set?
Dunlop made a claim 2 years ago. Covid screwed up last year. I just want to know if anyone has used these or seen these. I think they would be awesome for Colorado!

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Randy_B

· #121 · 5 mo ago

Even the Chinesium ones average over 100 pound failure rate after a full year being exposed to UV.
Yeah, generallly I think theyre safe to use on a front fork to secure a half ounce LED.

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BigOgre

· #122 · 5 mo ago

Randy_B said:
The zippers on all your clothes are made in China but I bet no one worries about their member falling out.

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JPA2014FJR

· #123 · 5 mo ago

Randy_B said:
Did they impact the blinker frequency at all?

Oem blinkers function as normal rate but they are not in sync with the new led strips. I ignore the zip tie comments because its not true. Lucky for me i didn’t buy Chinese zip ties i bought Harbor Freight zip ties thank u very much! I didn’t buy an FJR and add zip ties not to live on the edge. That wouldn’t be any fun now would it.

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SIMMER

· #124 · 2 mo ago

I'm doing a (for me) long trip as some of
you might already know which will end up to be about 12000ish miles. I'm also still very new to this bike so I've been researching tires. Figured I'd let you all know what I'm thinking....so here it goes.... I'm not necessarily looking for the best handling tire or the best specific tire as Ill probably burn through my stock set and end up with a 2nd set on the road. I am really looking for the best all around touring tire. Something that will include, long mileage touring, good rain performance, and something that will last a bit longer. I currently have the stock Bridgestone Battlax Sport Touring T32 with about 750miles on them. I figure I'll get 1/2 way before I'll replace somewhere on the road.

How are these tires and if I have to replace part way through my trip with the same? Stick with the same or go something else ? Open to suggestions....like I said. I'm looking for a general point A to point B tire until I get home. Then I'll change to something more specific and better performance.

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Lil Steve

· #125 · 2 mo ago

Have you considered a car tire? From the criteria you mention, a car tire sounds like a really good option.

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SIMMER

· #126 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

Lil Steve said:
Have you considered a car tire? From the criteria you mention, a car tire sounds like a really good option.

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RiderJoe

· #127 · 2 mo ago

There are a lot of good tires out there. I am currently running Dunlop RoadSmart 3s and so far I am happy with them. It is a good all-around tire, and not too expensive either. Pending on your riding style and overall traveling weight you might be able to complete your trip on one set (or close to it).

RiderJoe

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Reserector

· #128 · 2 mo ago

SIMMER said:
Thanks tips. Fkn keyboard jockeys on every forum.

That was actually a serious reply. A car tire on the rear is not everyone's thing (called dark siding), but the setup does give much more mileage. For long distance riders, it's worth considering.
Not my bag, but not a joke.

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rbentnail

· #129 · 2 mo ago

1. You can see I've merged the new tire thread with our existing pinned one. Simmer, you'll get some good opinions if you go back to the beginning and read through it.

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SIMMER said:
Thanks tips. Fkn keyboard jockeys on every forum.

Chill man.

As mentioned, a rear car tire just might tick all the boxes for you, based on your criteria. I've spent many hrs riding the Delaware/Maryland/Virginia/NC/SC/Georgia coastal plains on car tires for at least 60K miles. 30,000+ miles for less than us$120 installed per tire ain't no joke. We have more than a few threads on the matter if you think you might be interested. And please, believe me when I say it does just as well dragging pegs in the mountains as it does on the straight-n-flat. Nothing like it riding through 2-3" of standing water whilst putzing along in a hurricane, too. BTDT.

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SIMMER

· #130 · 2 mo ago

Well I'll be ! Honestly haven't heard of that. My apologies to Lil Steve 🙏 and guys and I have again learned something new here. If you can't admit when you're wrong then you stop learning.

I know there are plenty of tire discussions. My point was I wasn't sure how long the stock tires would last. So I was trying to get a sense of the best on the road tire to switch over to on a long trip. Don't need the best handling tire. More just something to get me home.

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Lil Steve

· #131 · 2 mo ago

SIMMER said:
Well I'll be ! Honestly haven't heard of that. My apologies to Lil Steve 🙏 and guys and I have again learned something new here. If you can't admit when you're wrong then you stop learning.

I know there are plenty of tire discussions. My point was I wasn't sure how long the stock tires would last. So I was trying to get a sense of the best on the road tire to switch over to on a long trip. Don't need the best handling tire. More just something to get me home.

Apology accepted, guess you just needed to SIMMER down.

If you do decide to run a car tire on the back, there's just one modification that needs to be done, modify your existing rear brake arm or fabricate (easy) one from flat stock. Tons of info here... Darkside FAQ

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Whooshka

· #132 · 2 mo ago

The longest lasting tire is such a tough call. Some guys get 6-8K out of the same tire others say they get 10-12K. Some ride until their tires hit the wear bars and other ride until their tires look like baloney skins.

Go with what you're familiar with so you know what to expect.

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Randy_B

· #133 · 2 mo ago

I wish I understood why a car tire lasts so much longer. It cannot be just the increased contact patch, can it?
The video Ryan Fortnine did on the matter is certainly very compelling reason not to use a car tire but on the other hand, I have never heard of a car tire breaking its bead while mounted on a bike.
Considering how many miles I put on the road away from home, I am certainly one of those people that would significantly benefit going to the dark side. Still, I need to try it on someone else's bike first.

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Randy_B

· #134 · 2 mo ago

Simmer: Where do you live in Onterrible? My bike is in Florida right now but I am working my way up the eastern seaboard this year and ending up in Ontario for the winter.

skippy344!

· #135 · 2 mo ago

Just some physics thoughts...

The rubber compound on a car tire is much harder.

It is designed to hold up ~800-900 lbs. per car corner. Since it only has to hold up 450 lbs, on a bike, say, the friction coefficient is way less, thus increasing the wear period.

Some say that it is harder to lean a Dark Side bike, and keep it in a lean, than it is on a motorcycle tire. I just can't speak to that.

The idea does intrigue me though! I have been hearing about "dark-siding" motorcycles for 35 years, just never had the nerve to try it.

rbentnail

· #136 · 2 mo ago

Randy_B said:
I wish I understood why a car tire lasts so much longer. It cannot be just the increased contact patch, can it?
The video Ryan Fortnine did on the matter is certainly very compelling reason not to use a car tire but on the other hand, I have never heard of a car tire breaking its bead while mounted on a bike.
Considering how many miles I put on the road away from home, I am certainly one of those people that would significantly benefit going to the dark side. Still, I need to try it on someone else's bike first.

Well now you will, mine. But to be fair no tire would have held up to what I ran over- a 3/8" diameter pin. Instant deflate, broke the bead on both sides. This is why I carry roadside assistance from the AMA. They arranged for a bike experienced hauler and paid him $750 over the phone on the spot for me and my '07 to ride nearly 100 miles home.

skippy344! said:
Just some physics thoughts...

The rubber compound on a car tire is much harder.

It is designed to hold up ~800-900 lbs. per car corner. Since it only has to hold up 450 lbs, on a bike, say, the friction coefficient is way less, thus increasing the wear period.

Some say that it is harder to lean a Dark Side bike, and keep it in a lean, than it is on a motorcycle tire. I just can't speak to that.

The idea does intrigue me though! I have been hearing about "dark-siding" motorcycles for 35 years, just never had the nerve to try it.

It's different but I had no trouble adapting. Like I said earlier, for me and my coastal riding there isn't much need for leaning all that far

. In the NC and VA mtns it's a workout but like all other things when done regularly one gets used to it and after a while doesn't even notice it anymore.

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SIMMER

· #137 · 2 mo ago

Randy_B said:
Simmer: Where do you live in Onterrible? My bike is in Florida right now but I am working my way up the eastern seaboard this year and ending up in Ontario for the winter.

I'm in the Niagara Region.....hey...shouldn't it be the other way around? End up in Florida for the winter ? haha

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skippy344!

· #138 · 2 mo ago

Well Dang, RBent!!! that was a serious flat!!! I woulda crapped myself!! But good on you for having AMA, and good on them for honoring their commitment!!

And I hear what you are saying. As avid motorcyclists, we are extremely adept at having to adapt and overcome! I have a good friend who has ridden his Valkyrie over 1 million miles documented, and he is a serious Dark-sider!! And he can handle that big bike as good as any MotoGP rider!! Very intriguing!

RaYzerman

· #139 · 2 mo ago

Car tire rubber is actually softer and stickier, or so I've heard. Plus a whole lot more rubber thickness.. Or shall we say, you can rail it as hard as you want and it won't slip out. Ran a Michelin Exalto (no longer available) for 3 years and 38k miles before I wore it down on the Cherohola Skyway... it could have gone more....... As to which car tire now, I'd defer to others for the latest and greatest. I'd say don't use a run-flat, sidewalls are way too stiff.

All I got is a pic of when I first put it on my '07.........

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Bandit Greg

· #140 · 1 mo ago (Edited)

Car tires... wow

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