Stupefying CO2 in Motorcycle Helmets and the Free Fix... FortNine

Yeah, this video was flawed, as many have pointed out here. I can't put my finger on it but I knew the moment I watched it that he missed something important.

As to the airbag stuff, not all vests are meant to be worn under a jacket. The one he wears in the video is an "outer" layer vest, hense the high vis and rip cord.

Bonus, the tire goo: I was a mechanic for 12 years, not only did we HATE seeing a car come in with goop in the wheels, but after customers got their quote or bill they hated it too. That crap just doesn't work most of the time and should only ever be used as an absolute LAST RESORT. Once that stuff impregnates the rubber it's next to impossible to do a proper patch and most of the time is doesn't seal (just like the video showed). Plus! It can cause damage to the tire pressure sensor if the wheel has one. So, as a motorcycle rider, would I use goo? Not unless I was hundreds of miles from a shop and had not other options. Give me a plug kit and a portable compressor any day of the week!

DesertBike said:

Unless it was full of animal balloons or something similar, no it didn't.

I jest of course. Your statement isn't factual, no matter what was in your backpack.

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The statement is in fact, rooted in both logic and experiences. (one very extreme)

Whooshka said:

Back pack is worthless if you fall on your face.

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I can see some scenarios, like being knocked unconscious where there would certainly spare some some ribs. 😋 In order of, my gloved hands, arms, elbows and helmet-wearing face took the brunt in a dismount. I didn't think that vest wasn't thick enough enough to prevent any of that; unfortunately. But having just about anything between self in road, helps. Need a side-profile but on second look, it does appear to be thicker than I thought though.

Intuit said:

The statement is in fact, rooted in both logic and experiences. (one very extreme)

~4,000lbs vs ~400lbs

So you know the physics game. We loose. Got mowed down today. Only reason I'm not using "rear ended" as a description is because I'm told the vehicle kept going and had to backup (on the highway) to revisit the scene. Other than memory loss (concussion), some scrapes, bruised knee and mildly...

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Sorry, but no. A backpack is in no way as good as or reasonably comparable to the protection offered by an airbag vest. It's certainly not "better" than the airbag vest. Especially loaded with laptops, batteries etc. I'd much rather have inflated air bladders with an armor plate on the outside (Turtle) on my back, than some heavy stuff that's likely to injure me if I land on it.

As for "facts": have you crashed in a Helite Turtle? I have, twice. Once not so serious on a dirt road, was totally uninjured. Second time was when a jackass ran into me head-on. That time I would certainly have died if not for the Turtle, as I bounced headfirst off the pavement at one point. Thanks to my helmet, and the Turtle acting as a neck brace, my head and neck didn't get hurt at all. I didn't ever lose consciousness. In fact, nothing covered by the Turtle got hurt in the slightest. We had an effective closing speed around 80mph. Had I been relying on a backpack, I would have been super dead. Broken neck, at the very least.

In your crash, you would certainly have been better off with some sort of airbag protection. The neck stabilization feature of the Turtle is one a lot of people miss.

rbentnail said:

I said to myself, "self this CO bs is bs" when the video was first posted. Exaggerated at the least. YMMV.

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I agree to a certain point. I think it is something to at least take heed to and consider though. We all (I hope at least) have carbon monoxide detectors in our homes because it is dangerous and even deadly. More over the entire point is that we are not capable of perceiving the effects while they are altering our bodies. So, from a consciousness standpoint, we may not be able to understand and "feel" that we are depriving ourselves of oxygen but the data is there and it IS in fact happening. We might not pass out, get dizzy, have a seizure etc. but we can make poor decisions, have poor timing and suffer from altered reflexes. Is it true, yes. It it a massive concern for most of us, probably not. Is it an attempt to garner viewers and maintain a level of content, absolutely. I think most of us know from sitting in traffic at a large intersection that we aren't exactly getting the best air or even enough of it. Hell, any of us would open our modulars or visors to get some better air. I ride with the curtain on the bottom and top of my mouth almost all season to cut down on the wind noise for my camera's mic and I know full and well that in July on a sunny day the air in there is stale AF. My question as to the conciseness of the video is the lack of reference to the vents most helmets have on the front of the lower half. I ride with those open almost all year and I am sure that increases air flow in a massive way, as long as we are moving.

I owned an airplane equipped with a CO monitor. Near the end of a 3 hour flight, the CO monitor alarm went off. We watched as the digital display showing the CO concentration climbed from 10 and eventually stabilized around 90 PPM even with air vents fully open. Although we had integral O2 tanks onboard, we hadn't anticipated needing the masks and had them stowed where they were inaccessible from inside the cabin. We continued to the destination - about 45 minutes - with no discernable symptoms in any of the three occupants. Our Oxygen Pulse Oximeter showed no significant changes.

We landed and checked out the plane, eventually finding a small fracture in an exhaust pipe. This was on a Sunday with no mechanics on the field.

We finished our business and got back to the plane. We had adequate O2 for everyone, so we made the decision to complete the return flight using masks. We identified several airfields along our route in case we felt we needed them, but there were no ill effects on the way back.

Intuit said:

This a single prop plane?

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This was a Cessna T210M - turbocharged single engine.