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I'm about to purchase the Gerbing heated clothing for this upcoming winter. I want the jacket liner, pants liner, socks and gloves along with the heat controller. I've added up the power draw and it comes up to 165 watts. I know that this is only at full blast, but I understand the alternator on my '05 is not exactly a powerhouse. Anybody have the Gerbing outfit? Any problems with power draw? I'd hate to end up with a dead battery during the middle of a ride. Thanks for your help.
 

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the numbers you quote are more than the spare watts that the FJR has available. If you need to run the whole set, then you can't run them on full and shouldn't run them with any other accessories (or even the radiator fan).

install a volt meter and monitor your battery closely.
 

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I've used that setup and tested it a lot. You'll be pretty bullet-proof to the cold, except for your face and fogging your faceshield.

You'll be fine on power, until you're running the Heat Controller past around 70% (which you'll find to be pumping out tons of heat), because at around that point, the alternator won't be keeping up.

Make sure you've got a direct tap to the battery, with a 20amp fuse.

I found that when it got below 10 degrees F... the only way to keep the face shield from icing was to use a snorkel to breathe through. :lol:

If weather that chilly was more common, I'd look into one of those heated faceshields.

In my experience, getting the perfect sub-zero combination of gear together takes time and experimentation. (but what else are you gonna do when it's that cold outside?)


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Gerbing

I've got some of the Gerbing kit.

I reckon we've got to turn off the headlights and just have the side lights on when using Gerbing.

Also recommend getting a Datel Voltmeter - shows you how little you have to play with if the battery is to remain charged

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:idea: A snorkel?! :idea:
And all this time I've left the sheild cracked open while riding & full up at stops...
Now to find a SCUBA shop!
Thanks Liquid!
 

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You don't have to get too elaborate with it... I just used a short length of polyurethane hose... just to get my breath out of the helmet... and that was for REALLY cold weather.


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I run Gerbings jacket liner and gloves, occasionally with Widder leg chaps as well. I do have a Datel and dual mounted Heat-Trollers to control the jacket and gloves seperately. I rarely find the need to have the jacket liner up full, though have found the gloves need more power to do the job for me. No problems for me in 20F temps all day.

In sub freezing weather I also will use a Respro Foggy mask, which works, but is a bit of a pain to pull the helmet off with it in place.
Respro

Datel link for those in need:
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Scorpian non-fogging Helmets

I have some comments on the Scorpian Helmet lines, that the lenses are non-fogging. I've struggled finding a manufacture that was truly optically correct and fogless. I came across this helmet, and have to attest that they do not fog in the coldest weather I've been in (20 deg). I've asked others and they all have great results, but there are a few lenses that they do sell that are not fogless lenses, so make sure you get the right ones. Now saying that, I will be getting a gerbing vest, and some other liners. Someone posted a DIY liner on FJRForum.com that I might do just for fun. But my question is if I ride 2-up, and both of us are using the vest, gloves, pants and socks at 70percent, I think I will run the batt out. Any suggestions to overcome the volt problem?
 

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Gerbing gear.......

I used all my Gerbing stuff (jacket liner, trouser liner, socks and gloves) on my '03 and did ok, but it was definately pushing the altenator's output. Rode for up to 2-3 hours in 20+F temps, but almost all the riding was on backroads at speed; doubt that I ever had the "zoot suit" cranked up much past 1/2 way either, definately not a GL1800 for electrical power. Odd "failing" for a sport touring bike; guess Yamaha figured the bike kicked off enuff BTUs so one didn't need heated gear...uh-huh. Definately was true about my '03 in the 70s (warm) and 80s-HOT!

Sure hope they really have solved that heat problem on my ordered '06 A....now if it would just GET HERE!! DFO :wink:
 

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@Eric, thanks for the link for the Respro, I have been thinking of one of these for a while, tired of running with the shield cracked open in the cold air. I have also been tossing the idea of heated gloves vs. grips and the Datel link in very useful as well.
 

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I too have been pondering a heated outfit. In fact I ordered the complete Widder oufit but the power drains are about the same (121 watts).

My real concern is that I've added a lot of electronics to my FJR and I don't know if the alternator can keep up. My entire modifications include Heli bar adapters, J&M 40 channel CB/intercom, XM-radio, Escort 8500 radar detector, Blind Extreme laser radar jammer, Rifle windshield, Garmin 2610 navigation unit, Corbin Cayon Dual saddle with heat and heated grips, cell phone adapter, cigarette lighter, auxilary 12-volt power outlet.

I also installed battery led connectors for a battery maintainer. I'll keep a 3 amp charge on the battery when it's garaged.

I just ordered the Datel voltmeter.


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Sorry, but I still cant get the image of Liquid riding with a bloody snorkel out'a my head... :?
 

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Sorry, ol' buddy. When it's January and February in the deep freeze, you'll try just about anything.




Please don't come up with a picture to illustrate that, okay? :wink:



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I too have been pondering a heated outfit. In fact I ordered the complete Widder oufit but the power drains are about the same (121 watts).

My real concern is that I've added a lot of electronics to my FJR and I don't know if the alternator can keep up. My entire modifications include Heli bar adapters, J&M 40 channel CB/intercom, XM-radio, Escort 8500 radar detector, Blind Extreme laser radar jammer, Rifle windshield, Garmin 2610 navigation unit, Corbin Cayon Dual saddle with heat and heated grips, cell phone adapter, cigarette lighter, auxilary 12-volt power outlet.

I also installed battery led connectors for a battery maintainer. I'll keep a 3 amp charge on the battery when it's garaged.

I just ordered the Datel voltmeter.

Mel
The Datel is a good idea. Most of those items are low draw. I didn't see any aux lights listed (larger load). The Widder gear is some of the most efficient out there and the pick for alternator challenged bikes like the FJR. None of the things listed are critical systems, so watching the Datel can tell you when you need to start shutting other things down when needing the heated gear more.
 

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You should not have too much trouble running these amp on short runs. Problem is the all dayers will take a toll. Are you running these off powerlets or standard cigar style. That would be a bigger concern for me. Get a powerlet kit and enjoy your winter rides.
 

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Gerbing Heated Gear

Probably to late to do you any good. What did you decided to do?

I have Gerbing heated jackets, wife and I both. No heat control, just "OFF" or "ON". Had them for a bit of awhile, two seasons maybe. Never found a problem, both my wife and I wear.

I always tell her (and myself) to switch off a mile or more before arriving at the destination, and, in traffic, stop n' go, I'll turn mine off. I'm strange, turn off the headlights of my vehicles when I get to my driveway to allow the battery a little recovery time as I park the vehicles in the garage.
 

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With the jacket liner and gloves at full tilt, your voltage will drop below 12.5 only at idle, IIRC.

Your radar detector and radio won't affect anything, very small draws. (unless you plan on hooking up the Kicker subwoofer to the setup ;) )

I've never been able to run my jacket liner at 100 percent. Even at 25 degrees below freezing, the liner will get hot spots. I have been able to run the gloves at full blast, though.


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