Thank you very much! That's some good info. Never thought of peeking at the subframe when checking them out. Will do.Kilgore, one thing I would add is when you're looking at a used fjr that's had a topcase used on it, always pull the seats and look back at the subframe by the tail lights for cracking/breaking, it is a $650 repair just for parts.I really liked the silver one for some reason, but it got sold the day before I was scheduled to look at it.
No worries, though, because I like the look of the black ones as well (and they're faster, so......). 😂
A "stiffy" made very well by one of our members here will not prevent breaking the subframe, only a givi sr357, or similar Shad tube rack or what I have which is the heavy aluminum Yamaha sourced rack will help. That all said, the stiffy will prevent the broken piece's from littering the highway behind you which is a definite plus !
I had several conversations with Yamaha when the subframe broke on my 14 (the fastest color red) and they were adamant about a max of 7lbs on the rear of the bike unless you used the heavy aluminum rack which bumped things up-to 10lbs.
I've had several people accuse me of overloading my topcase to break it but I can assure you that because of all the warnings from the guy's here I was sensitive to the weight thing and the most I ever carried was my cpap which weighs in at 5lbs. I did have a "stiffy" installed from the start.
Now my opinion is that I think that since the subframe is a cast aluminum piece that maybe some have a "defect" that causes them to break like a thin spot or maybe a carbon track, don't know but most never have a problem but in my opinion the rear subframe is a poor design at best. I believe as well that just riding the bike down the road, hitting bumps, etc that cause the topcase to shake around is a contributing factor to breaking my subframe.
So now that I've thrown that downer out there just do yourself a favor and on a used bike take a look at the subframe under the back cowl before you part with your money.
They are very terrific bikes with a few warts that can really put a smile on your face, and the forum here is loaded up with great people willing to help. Let us know what you buy, maybe a few pictures to go with that.
Long story, but I'm about 92% lolbuy the '09...did you??? I would have bought that in a heartbeat...
That sounds so strange to me..." my gf's place (45mins away) and I'm staying with her tonight". Been married to the same great woman for 46 years and can't imagine going anywhere to sleep other than in my own bed lol.. Probably because the dealer is 5mins from my gf's place (45mins away) and I'm staying with her tonight.
But I have a feeling I'm settled on the black one.
Nah, you don't really understand at all. But that's ok because I don't understand, either. Next thing you know you're 40, your wife is gone, and you're a full time single dad to a 4yo girl.HTML:That sounds so strange to me..." my gf's place (45mins away) and I'm staying with her tonight". Been married to the same great woman for 46 years and can't imagine going anywhere to sleep other than in my own bed lol.. Probably because the dealer is 5mins from my gf's place (45mins away) and I'm staying with her tonight.
But I have a feeling I'm settled on the black one.
But I understand....... have fun /forums/images/FJROwners_2015/smilies/tango_face_wink.png
Haha.... yeah, she's still in the sweet, her dad's Superman stage. I'm just enjoying it.Yea it's great when your partner likes to ride too. My wife and I have toured all over the US, Canada and Europe together for the last 48 years. Glad you found someone that enjoys your passion.
9 year old girl..probably still in the sweet stage. I remember my daughter becoming a teenager. One day she got mad about something, went into her bedroom and didn't come out until 2 years after she got married lol. She's 45 now. Has a 21 year old daughter herself, so now she knows what she put me through ha ha
KilgoreTrout,You guys are not going to believe this. My main concern has come to fruition after like 75miles. I read the big thread on here and located several of them. Can't seem to find s4, though? And apparently after jiggling the wires around, it fired right up with no issues. Nothing I've seen yet has been burned or corroded, either.
AC-50 is good stuff, but instead of dielectric (insulating) we want conductive paste in there. Dielectric will seal out moisture and oxygen but it's better applied after you've assembled the spider.I've had very good results scrubbing heavily corroded connectors with AC-50 using an old toothbrush followed by liberal amounts of dielectric grease.
Big 10-4 on pulling the contact out. That's what I need to do, I guessYou can clearly see the S4 spider by clicking on the picture below.
For applying goop: I remove the cap, slide a 90 degree pick under the spider and use a finger or thumb secure it to the pick while pulling it out.
I have noalox and oxguard sitting around from other projects. Probably use oxguard.AC-50 is good stuff, but instead of dielectric (insulating) we want conductive paste in there. Dielectric will seal out moisture and oxygen but it's better applied after you've assembled the spider.I've had very good results scrubbing heavily corroded connectors with AC-50 using an old toothbrush followed by liberal amounts of dielectric grease.