[Bugs]

Refueling during the race is currently banned in F1.

 

[maximrebel]

Isn't F1 required to make 1 fuel stop?

I know one strategy is to make an early run with a very light fuel load to gap the field in an attempt to gain some seconds before a long stop and slow lap times while running a full load of fuel.

No fuel stop, which Bugs was right about, but they have to use two different tire compounds and that necessitates a pit stop. However, if it is deemed a "wet race", then the two different tire compound rule is not in affect.

 

[dravnx]

there are actually 7 tires. 5 slicks and 2 rain tire compounds.

 

[Pterodactyl]

The F1 quote of the year. I think many of us will agree.

 

[maximrebel]

there are actually 7 tires. 5 slicks and 2 rain tire compounds.

Yes, but during a race weekend they only have 3 slick compounds and 2 rain compounds available, they DO NOT have all 5 slick compounds available during one race weekend; the Hard, Medium and Soft compounds are pre-determined prior to the race. It was meant to stop confusing the viewers when they had no less than 7 different compounds for slicks and names like the pink Hypersofts, as well as the orange Super Hards, compounds were confusing to the average viewer. Not me mind you, but then again I'm not an average viewer. :grin2:

HOWEVER, during the ACTUAL race they are required to run 2 different compounds a minimum and that was my point for the pit stop requirement...except if it is a wet race, then that rule goes out the window. LOL

So now I think we can stop with posting the rest of the F1 regulations, since I doubt this forum (aka NOT an F1 forum) seriously cares about the nitty gritty details of F1 rules and regulations. Besides, next year the tires will be different again!!! >

 

[Mr_Ed]

Yes, but during a race weekend they only have 3 slick compounds and 2 rain compounds available, they DO NOT have all 5 slick compounds available during one race weekend; the Hard, Medium and Soft compounds are pre-determined prior to the race. It was meant to stop confusing the viewers when they had no less than 7 different compounds for slicks and names like the pink Hypersofts, as well as the orange Super Hards, compounds were confusing to the average viewer. Not me mind you, but then again I'm not an average viewer. :grin2:

HOWEVER, during the ACTUAL race they are required to run 2 different compounds a minimum and that was my point for the pit stop requirement...except if it is a wet race, then that rule goes out the window. LOL

So now I think we can stop with posting the rest of the F1 regulations, since I doubt this forum (aka NOT an F1 forum) seriously cares about the nitty gritty details of F1 rules and regulations. Besides, next year the tires will be different again!!! >

I was hoping you'd explain what Ferrari had to change this year that made them so horrible

 

[dravnx]

It is an F1 thread. Talk away. It's not like we're using up bandwidth.

 

[maximrebel]

I was hoping you'd explain what Ferrari had to change this year that made them so horrible

Well...that's pretty simple; F1 appears to have caught them, punished them 'privately' and then the engine was changed. Whatever they did in the middle of last year to 'all of a sudden' be incredibly fast, had to be changed and it made a massive difference. The fact that the FIA didn't release what they did says a lot and it's a double-standard for most other teams; what I mean with that is that most teams would not just be able to cover up what they did with the FIA and it would be made public what they violated. I'm sure Ferrari will say that revealing that will give away blablabla technical information that is vital to Ferrari, but if this was just a regular team they would most likely not have that privilege. The other major teams protested but eventually relented and dropped their protests. If you consider that the FIA president Jean Todt is a former Team Principal and CEO for Ferrari F1 and Ross Brawn (current Managing Director, Motor Sports and technical director for F1) is also a former Team Principal for Ferrari, you can understand how this can happen, besides the fact that Ferrari is pretty much considered essential for F1 due to their history and importance to the sport.

The bottom line is that they cheated, got caught and slapped on the wrist.

If you want to read more about it, below is a link.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/02/why-the-fia-struck-a-confidential-deal-over-ferraris-power-unit/

 

[maximrebel]

It is an F1 thread. Talk away. It's not like we're using up bandwidth.

LOL, I was just talking in jest. I can talk F1 all day long, this thread is getting me in trouble at work and it IS taking up bandwidth...at my work :grin2:

 

[Mr_Ed]

Well...that's pretty simple; F1 appears to have caught them, punished them 'privately' and then the engine was changed. Whatever they did in the middle of last year to 'all of a sudden' be incredibly fast, had to be changed and it made a massive difference. The fact that the FIA didn't release what they did says a lot and it's a double-standard for most other teams; what I mean with that is that most teams would not just be able to cover up what they did with the FIA and it would be made public what they violated. I'm sure Ferrari will say that revealing that will give away blablabla technical information that is vital to Ferrari, but if this was just a regular team they would most likely not have that privilege. The other major teams protested but eventually relented and dropped their protests. If you consider that the FIA president Jean Todt is a former Team Principal and CEO for Ferrari F1 and Ross Brawn (current Managing Director, Motor Sports and technical director for F1) is also a former Team Principal for Ferrari, you can understand how this can happen, besides the fact that Ferrari is pretty much considered essential for F1 due to their history and importance to the sport.

The bottom line is that they cheated, got caught and slapped on the wrist.

If you want to read more about it, below is a link.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/03/02/why-the-fia-struck-a-confidential-deal-over-ferraris-power-unit/

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Yeah, I agree with you totally. My first thought when the started talking about it was that they should have to say what rule it was exactly that they misinterpreted and what they did so nobody else would make the same "mistake."

Edit:
And thanks for the link. I'll read that and share it with my wife, also an F1 fan.

 

[Bugs]

Here's an interview where Grosjean talks candidly about his accident:

 

[Pterodactyl]

Ever met a Brazilian man? Every single one I ever met can talk F1 all day long. I was in a coffee shop yesterday wearing a BMW Motorrad hat. Guy approaches me and asks if I know were he can buy an Airhead (I do). An hour later we are still talking F1. Turns out he was born and raised in Brazil, went to Harvard and has been a Pastor here in Montana for 15 years. It is hard to find anyone that likes F1 or MotoGP to the pont of being obnoxious. If you find one, then cling to them like mud.

 

[Myth Hall]

He was lucky that he had managed to escape, this was an interesting interview.

 

[Mr_Ed]

He was lucky that he had managed to escape, this was an interesting interview.

I was amazed that he escaped. We saw that on TV and saw the car totally engulfed in flame, and I said "He's dead." I was positive nobody could escape from that.

I said earlier in this thread (last month ) that I admire his presence of mind to do what it took to get out, and after that interview I admire him even more so.

 

[Damir]

yes he was LUCKY, and he escaped almost without any help, some say he was lucky it was the first lap and the medical car was right behind him, but you can see nobody could get close to the inferno, I bet they will double or triple the number of marshals with fire extinguishers, and most likely re-design those barriers.

here is another terrifying crash I remember, and a testament of how good these racing cars are, that must have been 50G's impact, it's beyond unbelievable how Sophie walked away, and apparently now still racing. Lucky she hit that car and went airborne, that scaffolding structure absorbed all of the impact. Must be hard to be a parent and watch this on live TV.

p.s. "The NHTSA standard for a sudden impact acceleration on a human that would cause severe injury or death is 75 g's for a "50th percentile male", 65 g's for a "50th percentile female", and 50 g's for a "50th percentile child".

 

[Pterodactyl]

Certainly there was an element of luck, but he is alive because of the research and development that made his car and gear allow him to survive the crash and subsequent fire. His reaction to the situation he was in was also key to his survival, but I suppose drivers at his level are generally calm, cool and collected under pressure. He remarked after the accident that he probably owes his life to the halo device that was mandated a few years ago. It not only kept him alive but he remained alert and able to respond to the fire after cutting his way through the roadside barrier. Good luck is normally the product of good preparation.