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Anyone have any pics of their dash shelves? .. I am building a new one. Im most interested in the mount points.

I cannot seem to see the pics in the older posts.

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Anyone have any pics of their dash shelves? .. I am building a new one. Im most interested in the mount points.

I cannot seem to see the pics in the older posts.

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Herb

i have a dash shelf with a radar detector, GoPro, and GPS mounted. I will take pics tomorrow and share.
 

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I don't have pics of one, but when they come, you'll see two short arms mount to the two screws on the inboard side of the instruments on each side. When you have to remove the large black panel over the instruments, you have to somehow support the dash shelf..... if you are building your own, see my pic where I bolted my homemade shelf to the upper side of the plastic on either side of the "hood". Might give you an idea....

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I just realized the current one I built a couple years ago, that mounts to the nose cowel and the ones on the inside of the plastic around the dash is totally sported by plastic.. Im hoping to come up with something different.
 

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I don't have pics of one, but when they come, you'll see two short arms mount to the two screws on the inboard side of the instruments on each side. When you have to remove the large black panel over the instruments, you have to somehow support the dash shelf..... if you are building your own, see my pic where I bolted my homemade shelf to the upper side of the plastic on either side of the "hood". Might give you an idea....

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I also have a front strut that goes to a well nut in the front cowel. I hope to make the new one come further back and cut out a notch so I can see the signal indicaters better. I also think I can get the gps a bit more forward.
 

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I originally ordered one of the Gen 3 dash shelves from someone thru this forum, and when received I realized it was way bigger than I wanted. But I used that as a pattern to build my own smaller shelf. I too was not happy with the shelf being supported only by plastic, so I added some small angle iron (aluminum) braces behind the plastic to a more solid point lower down. Seemed to make the whole structure more rigid. Still flexes some on rough roads, but not as bad as originally. You can see them immediately to the left and right of the dash display.

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I still have the original shelf new in the box, never installed.

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I originally ordered one of the Gen 3 dash shelves from someone thru this forum, and when received I realized it was way bigger than I wanted. But I used that as a pattern to build my own smaller shelf. I too was not happy with the shelf being supported only by plastic, so I added some small angle iron (aluminum) braces behind the plastic to a more solid point lower down. Seemed to make the whole structure more rigid. Still flexes some on rough roads, but not as bad as originally. You can see them immediately to the left and right of the dash display.

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I still have the original shelf new in the box, never installed.

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Nice, I will look into something like that tomorrow. Is the lower bolt in the angle going into an existing hole?
 

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Nice, I will look into something like that tomorrow. Is the lower bolt in the angle going into an existing hole?

Yes, I don't remember exactly, but it was an existing hole in the dash support with an existing bolt in it. I just added my brace under that bolt. Look around and you'll find a suitable location for the lower end.
At the top, the tab end goes between the existing u-nut and the black plastic dash surround. A longer screw was needed to reach through all the extra layers.
Had to shave a little off the brace on the left to clear the windshield mechanism, you can see the two black marks where material was removed. The bends on the right brace took a couple of tries to fit, it ain't pretty, but it can't be seen when dressed.


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I just realized the current one I built a couple years ago, that mounts to the nose cowel and the ones on the inside of the plastic around the dash is totally sported by plastic.. Im hoping to come up with something different.
Unfortunately there is nothing but plastic in that area. If you find better mounting points please share.
 

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My dash. Tried to highlight mounting points. Unfortunately mounting points are all on plastic. However, have not had any issues since installing over a year ago. Been on several long distance trips.
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I originally ordered one of the Gen 3 dash shelves from someone thru this forum, and when received I realized it was way bigger than I wanted. But I used that as a pattern to build my own smaller shelf. I too was not happy with the shelf being supported only by plastic, so I added some small angle iron (aluminum) braces behind the plastic to a more solid point lower down. Seemed to make the whole structure more rigid. Still flexes some on rough roads, but not as bad as originally. You can see them immediately to the left and right of the dash display.

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I still have the original shelf new in the box, never installed.

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I like your solution. What method did you use to bend the angle iron? Looks like the right side required some bending.
 

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FYI, for the single screw at the nose, there is no hole..... put masking tape on and mark the hole location..... I drilled a 5mm hole and used a 5mm screw with a washer and nyloc nut on the back, clear plastic washer in between paint and the shelf. You could drill an even larger hole and use a standard rubber well nut like is mounting the windshield, very commonly available. I wanted to be able to plug the hole later, so kept it small.

I had issues with interference to my V-stream windshield, so I shimmed up the entire windshield motor bracket 1/2" at each of the 4 mounting points. Worked a treat and reduces buffeting. You can vary the shim thickness at each pair of points to tilt the windshield.... dan's smaller shelf looks like a good solution for that too.
 

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I like your solution. What method did you use to bend the angle iron? Looks like the right side required some bending.
I'm just a poor boy, overstuffed garage (I have to go outside to change my mind), no machine tools, no lathes, presses, surface grinders, vertical mills, welders, torches, stamping machines, sand blast cabinet, paint booth...............you get the picture. Probably like most folks!!
Can't remember for sure, but I probably clamped the angle in a vise and hit it with a hammer, or maybe used vise grips.
The rest was finished with hand tools, files, drill, etc. Most of my work is fairly crude, but most of it is covered up where it doesn't show, much.
I never thought to take photos, I never thought anyone else would care...........sorry. Oh, I'm not about to take it apart to make photos and measurements.:rolleyes:
It was a case of give it a shot and test fit, repeat until success.

BTW anyone with even a modest amount of imagination could probably dream up a better solution. For example a steel tube, or steel rod, might be easier to bend and then the ends strategically flattened and drilled in the proper orientations to bolt up. I just used what was handy.
Are you listening Ray??? There might be a business opportunity here!!

For the shelf, I borrowed a cheap bandsaw from a neighbor, bought a metal cutting blade, drew a pattern on a scrap piece of aluminum and started cutting. Everything else was done with hand tools, files, drills, hammer (did I mention hammer before), etc. If I were doing it again, I would make a few minor changes, but fundamentally the same.



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No need to mention how dirty the scooter is, I'm aware!! Not finished riding it yet.


007s photos are of the same dash shelf I originally bought and thought was larger than I wanted. I used that as a pattern for my smaller shelf. My shelf is shorter side to side, and shorter front to back. I still have that shelf new in the box, never installed.


I had issues with interference to my V-stream windshield, so I shimmed up the entire windshield motor bracket 1/2" at each of the 4 mounting points. Worked a treat ... Ray

I also had a small interference problem, I just bent the front brace on the shelf to clear the windshield bracket (did I mention hammer before), never even thought of shimming the windshield bracket. Good idea.


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dan, I bent the front section in a curve to clear the windshield initially.... my buddy bought my '14 and we played with shimming.... ended up shimming the whole darn thing up, he's very happy with the lack of turbulence on the V-Stream now.

I custom make (mostly aluminum) brackets, etc., drill press, vice, hammer, hacksaw, angle grinder, files, jig saw.... no production equipment. I wouldn't make any money even at $10 per hour, lol.
 

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I custom make (mostly aluminum) brackets, etc., drill press, vice, hammer, hacksaw, angle grinder, files, jig saw.... no production equipment. I wouldn't make any money even at $10 per hour, lol.
I figured you would custom engineer a set, then send it out for production!! 😁 ;)👍
Don't really know how many would be interested, most don't put shelves on their scooters.
You know, form over function.

You've mentioned the shimming of the windshield bracket before; now you're going to make me have to give it an experimental test drive to see how well it works for me. Damnit!! 🤓


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