[natsmada4fjr]

There's a couple of things I like about the flash (i.e. throttle on delay after coasting) but having to use premium fuel makes me hit the brakes

I believe that Ivan recommends 89 Octane, not Premium fuel, after you have him modify your ECU.

 

[RaYzerman]

And you can test out your fuel mileage with each fuel........ I ran regular with no apparent ill effects, and the occasional tank of 89.

 

[BigOgre]

I run mine exactly like Ray did, more often than not just regular. I've had to really concentrate to appreciate the difference.

 

[FJR Flyer]

Yeah, its easiest to pull the right side fairing off, or back. I pulled the ECU to get Ivan's flash.

 

[skippy344!]

Does retired systems engineer count?

Yes, Yes, it Does!!

 

[Ron777]

I am considering an Ivan's flash for my 2019 model.
Ivan's website shows the location of the ECU, behind the right side body panel, next to the battery (on his 2016 bike).
Not on mine.....
Before I start taking off all sorts of panels, can someone enlighten me as to the location on my 2019 model?

This is from Ivan on the location. https://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/fjr1300_2.htm

 

[Wandering Alien]

Hi all,

I love reading the updates from the weekly forum email. Rarely do I miss catching up almost all of the threads. I'm "here" a lot, though I don't post much. The knowledge base represented here is amazing. I don't post much because I don't feel I have much to contribute. Thanks for you all and your posts!

I've seen a lot about Ivan's flash, but thought it was more for the Gen 1 and 2 FJR's. I have a 2015 and haven't considered this because I don't really know what it would do for me. I think my 2015 runs so well, that I wonder, what would be the benefit of flashing a Gen 3, 2015 FJR ECU? Would I even notice the difference? If so, in what way?

Thanks for the feedback. You all are an amazing group.

 

[Wandering Alien]

Hi all,

I love reading the updates from the weekly forum email. Rarely do I miss catching up almost all of the threads. I'm "here" a lot, though I don't post much. The knowledge base represented here is amazing. I don't post much because I don't feel I have much to contribute. Thanks for you all and your posts!

I've seen a lot about Ivan's flash, but thought it was more for the Gen 1 and 2 FJR's. I have a 2015 and haven't considered this because I don't really know what it would do for me. I think my 2015 runs so well, that I wonder, what would be the benefit of flashing a Gen 3, 2015 FJR ECU? Would I even notice the difference? If so, in what way?

Thanks for the feedback. You all are an amazing group.

 

[FJR Flyer]

After the 2nd gear recall, which included an ECU reflash, my throttle got jumpy and abrupt (jerky). I did Ivan's flash, and it smoothed out the throttle a lot. (TPS change was eventually required). It also has the 3rd ride mode, which it stays in 99% of the time, it kicks on the fans at a lower temp, and removes the 80 mph (IIRC) limit on the cruise control on older Gen 3s.

 

[Wandering Alien]

Sorry for the double post. Internet connection issues.

I don't think I'm limited to setting my cruise to 80 or less, but most of the riding I do is in 65 mph zones or back roads so, rarely would I have a chance to set it that high. Now I'm curious and will hope for a good day before I stop riding to see if that is a limitation. Interesting idea to kick the fans on sooner, but here in MI, that's not normally going to be an issue. Maybe I'll notice that in a few years when I am able to retire and go for some longer rides. Any other benefits to an A model FJR?

 

[skippy344!]

Hi Alien,

First, you are here Because you share an interest with all of us.
Second, you ride an awesome motorcycle.
Third, anything you share, or contribute, no matter how small, may help or benefit another here!
I learn from Sage's like RaYzerman, and Also from folks who are newer to motorcycling!

I can Always learn something new, even in these later years of my life! I feel I am a better rider because of my son, and what he has taught me! And I introduced Him to motorcycling!

Do me a favor, if you find something important to you, important enough that you think about it more than once, share it!

I will bet dollars to doughnuts, you will help, inspire, or prompt someone to think.

Ride on!

 

[Wandering Alien]

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement Skippy! You are right on all counts, and I echo your comments about sharing / learning from your son. I have two sons and a daughter that all ride. We've had some great fun on the sand dunes and trail rides with some 250's....though I can't keep up or ride as long as the boys in those conditions.

I have commented now and then, and even posted on my ABM conversion, which didn't go as planned but worked out pretty well. Still hoping to recoup some of that by selling the ABM top plate. I would love to think I can give back to this group, even in a small way. I feel like there are some good friends here, even though we've never met in person. I would love to change that someday. If you, or anyone reading this is ever in West MI, let me know. It would be great to share a meal and even provide a bed/s for a overnight.

 

[dan cooper]

First the disclaimer:
I do not have Ivan's flash on my 2014.

One of the most useful benefits of Ivan's flash that would appeal to me is the elimination of the cruise control limits.
The 2013 model has the cruise control limited to 80 mph; all following years are limited to 100 mph. But all the Gen 3 scooters have the cruise control limited to 3rd gear and up with a lower limit of 30 mph and up.

The Ivan flash allows the cruise control to be set in any gear at any speed. That lets one set the cruise at 20 mph in 2nd gear for school zones that are heavily patrolled and carry elevated fines. Or in other situations where lower cruise speeds may be desired. That lets one concentrate on other driving tasks and distractions without constantly having to monitor the speedometer.

dan
YMMV

 

[Whooshka]

Hi all,

I love reading the updates from the weekly forum email. Rarely do I miss catching up almost all of the threads. I'm "here" a lot, though I don't post much. The knowledge base represented here is amazing. I don't post much because I don't feel I have much to contribute. Thanks for you all and your posts!

I've seen a lot about Ivan's flash, but thought it was more for the Gen 1 and 2 FJR's. I have a 2015 and haven't considered this because I don't really know what it would do for me. I think my 2015 runs so well, that I wonder, what would be the benefit of flashing a Gen 3, 2015 FJR ECU? Would I even notice the difference? If so, in what way?

Thanks for the feedback. You all are an amazing group.

I also feel like my '015 does not need a flash. The only thing about it that intrigues me is the third driving mode. To those who have it how does the mode display on the dash? Might be nice to have something in between sport and touring.

As for benefits of an A model?... suspension upgrades are much easier. I changed the front springs for my weight and that alone was a big improvement. I think damping adjustments are good enough to not need new cartridges. I just threw a Nitron shock in the rear but have yet to put it thru it's paces to see the difference that makes.

 

[RaYzerman]

I had Ivan's flash on my '14. Not worried about any cruise limit, it's more about performance improvements. I think of it a more "efficient" use of fuel, however to me it was minor and again just me, but I wouldn't opt for it if doing it again. Did somebody mention there was a ride mode other than Sport? I always had mine in Sport...... Yes I'm an 'A' guy, I want the option to upgrade the suspension, and I did both front and rear.

 

[Wandering Alien]

Great feedback Whooshka and RaYzerman. Thanks. From that feedback, I'm not going to dwell on trying the flashing the ECU. It doesn't sound like I would gain much.

I know I've read here that one does not know what good or bad suspension is until one has had it "dialed in" and experienced it. I have never thought about trying to tweak my suspension as I feel it feels pretty solid to me as is, but ....you don't know what you don't know. I'd have to spend a day riding with someone else coaching me on what to try suspension wise. Maybe one day I'll have the chance to ride with some of the good folks from and with their help, I'll see what I'm missing. Until then, I'm content riding what is be far the nicest and best performing bike I've ever owned.

 

[_Will_]

To answer the question on 3rd mode presentation, it shows as a blank on the mode section, I find I like it too as it has the guts of the sport if called on but can handle the casual duty of touring mode. I’ve got a little over 500 miles on it so far.

I originally got the flash for the improved CC options (I have the limited 13) and because I was so impressed with his flash on my 06 FZ1. The best way I find to describe it is his flashes make the bike more intuitive and refined.

 

[BigOgre]

I always kept mine in Sport until the flash and then it stayed in Ivan mode constantly. I thought it more smooth if you will then the abruptness of Sport without the lag of Touring. (Not sure if I'm explaining that right.) Funny though in that this summer the bike developed TPS symptoms (again) and by putting it back into Touring I was able to alleviate much of the issue. I quickly got used to it there and can't say it's horrible.

As far as CC, Dan hit on something I use regularly. Rural riding when coming into small towns has me setting it for the 20 or 25 mph speed limit until I'm safely through.

 

[Whooshka]

Great feedback Whooshka and RaYzerman. Thanks. From that feedback, I'm not going to dwell on trying the flashing the ECU. It doesn't sound like I would gain much.

I know I've read here that one does not know what good or bad suspension is until one has had it "dialed in" and experienced it. I have never thought about trying to tweak my suspension as I feel it feels pretty solid to me as is, but ....you don't know what you don't know. I'd have to spend a day riding with someone else coaching me on what to try suspension wise. Maybe one day I'll have the chance to ride with some of the good folks from and with their help, I'll see what I'm missing. Until then, I'm content riding what is be far the nicest and best performing bike I've ever owned.

I was on one of my week long rides and my friends and I started discussing suspension settings at dinner. One friend said he's never touched it. Let me preface this by saying he is a very capable, skilled rider. After dinner we went out to the hotel parking lot to see what his settings were. They were really out of whack. Don't remember the exact numbers but for damping was at like 14 clicks out and the rear all the way out. We set it to the "usual baseline" of 8 clicks out from full all around.

Next day we stopped after the first 30 miles. He said he couldn't believe the difference. Said it just seemed easier to go fast because he didn't have to change his riding style to suit the bike. No fighting it to turn in or hold a line. He didn't need a heightened awareness of road conditions and to predict the bike's behavior (even though he knew all the nuances).

Before the adjustments he had adapted his style to the bike and just got used to it.

 

[Whooshka]

One more note on suspension... there are a bunch of charts like this on the web to help diagnose handling issues or identify what to tweak for best results.