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Bar End Weights Coming Off

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#1 ·
I did a search already and wasn't able to find much on this topic. Hopefully someone has some advice or can help me find a thread about it that I missed.

I purchased the HVMP Extra Heavy for my 2024 FJR 1300 and installed them this past weekend. Took them for a ride and all seemed fine. Honestly, can't say I noticed much different between the stock ends. No big deal, was going to leave them on but yesterday, while making some changes to my Quad Lock setup, I noticed my left hand bar end was coming off. I am assuming due to vibration and the added weight it was thus pulling the inner housing out of the bar.

Now, hindsight 20/20, I should have taken a picture to be SURE the bars were flush before I pulled them off, I feel like I would have noticed them being this bad but can't go back now. The stock bar ends don't seem to really care about being a mm or two out of place but the HVMP extra heavy I ordered seem to really pull and feel like they could come out at any moment.

I have tried just about everything I can think of to work the housing back in a few mm so even the stock bar ends sit flush but I am not have any luck. Is there a trick or secret anyone could share that might help a poor helpless motorcycle hack get things back to semi normal?
 
#2 ·
A photo would be helpful.
It might help to know that bar end weights are not intended to be tight against the end of the bars. They are rubber-mounted so that they can move independently of the bar end to absorb vibration. If they were in direct contact, they would vibrate the same as the tip of the bar and do little or nothing.
Also, make sure that your hands do not rest on the bar end weights while riding. That will give you the tinglies in no time.
 
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My apologies, pictures definitley would help to illustrate the point.
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The weight of the stock bar ends seems to be fine but you can see the couple milimeter difference between the two here. Neither is butted tight but the left hand side is definitley a bit too far out so the weight of the heavy bar ends pulls it out and again makes it feel a bit "droopy"

I can't say I noticed any "droopiness" while riding, though to your point, I don't put my hands there when riding. Had I not brushed them yesterdy after dismounting the bike from adjusting my Quad Lock I may not have even realized it was happening.
 
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A bit of a gap is OK, actually need that on the throttle side, so try to match the throttle side.
The inner mount is a bushing with rubber, so, may be "stretching" outward as you tighten the screw. The answer, get that tapped in a little deeper by taking a stock bar end and loosening the screw a couple of turns, then tap on the end of it. Now install your heavy bar ends.... you can go tight on the left side, but if you need a wee bit of a gap or want space on the throttle side, get a couple of thin washers and see how much shimming you need. They should not feel loose, as the bar end and the washers will solidly sandwich right up to the handlebar firmly...... and not squishing into the grip... it's rubber, gonna feel loose. Your kit should have included some of those washers.....
 
#5 ·
Thanks for the input. The throttle side is good and what I am trying to match so that's good at least. I've tried a few taps with a dead blow to get it to go a bit futher in but it doesn't seem to want to budge. It may be something I just live with at this point, and keep the stock bar ends in place. It definitely feels like something has gotten into the rubber contact points and made it a bit more solid... but what I couldn't say.
 
#6 ·
That bushing, called a Holder, Damper in this fiche item #4 has a metal outer shell with a rubber spacer and a threaded inner core all bonded together, that the end weight screw goes into.
2022 Yamaha FJR1300ES (FJR13ESN) Steering Handle & Cable | Part Shark

You can put a screw into it and hammer on the center of it all you want without effect, but if you want to drive it deeper into the end of the handlebar you will need a thin wall pipe that will just clear the inside end of the handlebar to drive on the outer shell of the bushing. Yes, I have installed a pair of those.

There are several ways the gap might be different on the left and right handlebars.
The bushing might be driven deeper on one side, but the hole in the end of the handlebar does have a bottom, so there is a limit. But the limit might be different on the left and right.
The grip might be on the handlebar a little farther on one side, so the difference is only visual.
One weight might be different than the other, not likely.

For the record the difference in the gap between the end of the handlebar grip and the HVMP Extra Heavy weights on the left and right on my scooter is much larger than yours and it doesn't bother me even a little bit.

I'm pretty sure the weight is not pulling out of the end of your handlebar. Grab it and pull on it to see for yourself. If it actually does pull out, you'd rather have it happen in your garage than on the road.
It's usually a dedicated job to get those bushings out of the handlebar.

The easiest solution by far is "DON'T LOOK AT IT" !!

Ride more, stress less.


dan



Oh, try harder to keep your feet out of your photos, I mean damn. 😀:devilish:😀
 
#7 ·
jrutherford,

Where you been guy? What did you find about your handlebar weights? What was your solution?
Don't leave us hanging.

expiring minds want to know!!


dan
 
#8 ·
My apologies, I went back to the stock bar ends and I've put a couple hundred miles per weekend on them and I don't notice it at all. I've got a 3D printer here at home and I tried to print a few different things that could be used to push the mounts in further but nothing seems to do the trick. It's honestly not anything I am worried about at this point, I will likely sell the weight bar ends as well since I didn't really notice a huge difference when riding.
 
#9 ·
Hi all,

OK, these bar end weights. Did a search online about these all singing all dancing HVMP extra heavy bar ends, and with postage from the USA to the UK, they are just un-economical to buy, so really this is just what I've done here in the UK.

Tried everywhere to get some heavy ones here in the UK, and in the end (no pun intended), I have found the Oxford CS255 bar weights. Now the fittings that come with them, are useless for the FJR (2016), so a quick trip to the local fastener shop, and got the same Allen bolts that are in the original bar ends, except 20 cm longer, so M6 x 50, and they fit perfectly into where the old bar ends fit. Now a word of caution, because they fit so flush, be sure to put a couple of washers on the throttle side, so it doesn't make your throttle stick wide open, and keeps the bar end just off the throttle.

Hope that helps guys and Gals. My dreaded 4000rpm vibrations through the bars are now, non existent.
 
#10 ·
A few years ago, I installed a set of the HVMP Extra heavy bar weights and I didn't like them. They seemed to INCREASE the vibes on the handlebars. I went back to stock and have
never looked back.

YMMV
 
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#11 ·
If you have engine vibration in the handlebars, then bar end weights only change the RPM where you will feel it. Lighter weights vibrate at higher RPM, heavy weights vibrate at lower RPM.
There is a list of causes for handlebar vibrations. Bar end weights are not always the best way.
Bad vibes? Here you go . . .
 
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The ones on the pictures above are baby weights. No idea what bike those would be considered heavy on.

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