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07-17-2019 10:09 AM
Kiwiaudio Thanks Ray. Yes, I could see that happening.
07-16-2019 07:47 PM
Steve Bracken
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg View Post
Everyone is different. Only you know what works for you. When I got my custom Laam, it felt funny at first. Then, after I used it for a week and returned to my normal riding position and posture on the new seat, it was heaven. I donít need a custom seat to ride for 4-8 hours. After that, I miss my Laam, and badly. I will order another one when I wear this one out. My aerostich gear and my Laam seat are the most expensive things Iíve bought, excluding helmets, to support my heavy riding habit. Iíd spend every penny I spent with aerostich and Laam again in a heartbeat. Ride 1,000 miles and then decide whether your gear is good.
It's difficult to glean much from people's views of things like seat and riding gear unless they are riding the way you want to.

For example ... It's perfectly possible that the Laam seat is all anyone might need for a 500-mile ride. By most riding standards that is a long way, and further than the majority of riders ever go. My issue is that I want to know how it compares after 1000 or 1500 miles. I want to know what I'll likely feel like after 30 hours stopping only for gas, bonuses and the odd burger (that I can eat while riding).

There are very few riders doing that kind of thing because most of them are smarter than me. On the other hand, I tried every cheap solution known to man before springing for the Russell, and I know that on that seat, the only thing that doesn't hurt is my butt.

I'm the last one to suggest others buy what I have. It's fugly and expensive, but it's about buying the right tool for the job, and that's not always easy to find in comparative reviews.
07-16-2019 07:17 PM
Bill Lumberg Everyone is different. Only you know what works for you. When I got my custom Laam, it felt funny at first. Then, after I used it for a week and returned to my normal riding position and posture on the new seat, it was heaven. I donít need a custom seat to ride for 4-8 hours. After that, I miss my Laam, and badly. I will order another one when I wear this one out. My aerostich gear and my Laam seat are the most expensive things Iíve bought, excluding helmets, to support my heavy riding habit. Iíd spend every penny I spent with aerostich and Laam again in a heartbeat. Ride 1,000 miles and then decide whether your gear is good.
07-16-2019 06:41 PM
RaYzerman You could also glue some aluminum flat bar pieces on the frame to build it up in say 1/8" thicknesses..

FYI, if you remove the bumpers/thin them, the seat will likely sit on the side panels and eventually crack them at the front upper tab... careful out there. Project bike had that feature so I had to get new(ish) side panels.
07-16-2019 04:49 PM
Kiwiaudio Tim, With the tray removed, the back feet of my seat pan are not resting on the frame rail at all. The square white plastic part of the pan beside the catch touches down first. It has a formed plastic locating pin inside it.
I had thought about grinding that down until the back feet touched the frame, but have not gone there yet. Didnt want to do that until a last resort, but you are right in that it will tilt the seat back more.
Your comment about the bikes spirit aligns with many conversations ive had with myself. I understand the FJR and all sport tourers are compromise bikes by their very nature and do not lean heavily in either direction. With our preference for either end of the spectrum, all we can do is try to make it fit us, and all our quirky body parts, and I think its fun to do so. Ive had to adjust every bike ive ever had (save my old kawasaki klx250), so evidently i am abnormal. Wife will chime in here undoubtedly !
AND - No two butts are ever the same - sounds like something beavis and butthead would say !

Roddy, ill have to zoom your pic and take a good look at your seat _ ill get back to you asap.
07-16-2019 04:37 PM
D-Dub I don't know if the seat is the whole problem. I have a Seat Concepts seat not a Lamm but it's a similar design that is dished out in the rear and widened. It's a big improvement over the stock seat but I still feel like I'm being pushed in to the tank even with my heli bars fully pulled back. But when I put my feet on the highway pegs the problem disappears and I can sit anywhere on the seat comfortably. And it's not that I'm pushing myself back using the highway pegs I believe it's that they change the angle of my legs especially my thighs. Your mileage may vary.
07-16-2019 01:16 PM
fjroddy I bought a used laam and I had to play with the positioning as you are trying, but for the opposite reason....it's to low in the back for my liking. Here is a pic of mine, you show me yours lol, maybe we could swap... if u were interested I would take some more pics
07-16-2019 12:11 PM
sector7g Kiwi, I think I'm in the same boat as you! I've got a RDL which I sent back as well to have the seat "pulling forward" feel adjusted. One thing that has helped was removing the plastic tray as you've done, BUT also removing the back 2 rubber feet. I kept the front 2 feet in place, which puts that seat at a much better position.

In the end, you really are trying to fight the bike's "spirit". It's a sport tourer. Probably the best, most reliable bang for the buck out there. But, if you personally aren't built for that type of forward lean, it's nearly impossible to resolve. (Or, I haven't had the luck I've been trying for a couple years....)

Good luck, and let me know how it works.
07-16-2019 11:58 AM
Kiwiaudio I have Helibars which help, and just fitted a peg lowering kit, which helped a little more. I have soupys links lowering the rear 1/2" and forks at max extension. That helped a little more.
Yesterday, I put 1/4" spacers on the frame under the front seat rubbers with no tray. Test ride today !!
07-16-2019 11:36 AM
Steve Bracken
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Originally Posted by Kiwiaudio View Post
Im still trying things to get my Laam seat more comfortable. Seth has adjusted it (long story) but it still tilts me forward. Ive tried a few things, but this last one seems to have possibilities.
With the adjusting tray removed, there is a lot of movement in the seat, which will allow for the front to be raised about 1/2" if the front two rubber feet were that much longer.
Anyone found a source for differing lengths of these feet ? Failing that, i think ill silicone a spacer onto the frame.
Any ideas appreciated.
Anyone in Ohio/Michigan have a Russell ? Im thinking about going that way, but would love to sit on one first.
Are you sure it's the seat?

I felt the same way until I fitted bar-risers.
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