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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 12-14-2015, 02:43 AM Thread Starter
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ES Fork servicing/rebuilding

Hi Folks,

I am considering the 2016 ES model. I am wondering anyone did their ES fork servicing(changing of fork fluid) themselves or it need to be sent to the dealer? Any advise is appreciated.
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Hi Folks,

I am considering the 2016 ES model. I am wondering anyone did their ES fork servicing(changing of fork fluid) themselves or it need to be sent to the dealer? Any advise is appreciated.


unless known issues / symptoms crop up
leave well enuf alone

nothing about an FJR is fickle or fragile
ride / accumulate miles until you reach that milestone

then have it serviced
otherwise you might be initiating costly results

hadnt heard of ongoing apparent issues unlike some
experienced with bmw's offering

really depends on miles accumulated + age

many have upgraded the standard suspension components
front / rear to good results

after a while a serious consideration as im a long term rider
i see No advantage to the ' ES '
i dont find my overall riding habits / roads / speed
vary that much
id need to make an on the fly adjustment
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If you are familiar with the GenII forks, there shouldn't be a terrible problem doing the GenIII ES forks. Once you remove the ES adjusters off the top caps, they are just forks. Take a look at the parts diagrams for each. Cartridges are similar, and while I haven't dove into a GenIII yet, I can see a special tool (socket, similar to what we have for GenII) might be required......... who has a service manual that can look that up?
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unless known issues / symptoms crop up
leave well enuf alone

nothing about an FJR is fickle or fragile
ride / accumulate miles until you reach that milestone

then have it serviced
otherwise you might be initiating costly results

hadnt heard of ongoing apparent issues unlike some
experienced with bmw's offering

really depends on miles accumulated + age

many have upgraded the standard suspension components
front / rear to good results

after a while a serious consideration as im a long term rider
i see No advantage to the ' ES '
i dont find my overall riding habits / roads / speed
vary that much
id need to make an on the fly adjustment

How does this answer Rossi_FJR's question?

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How does this answer Rossi_FJR's question?
About the first response to the OP... yeah.

I think there's a language barrier there somewhere.


((I thought the second response was enlightening though. )

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About the first response to the OP... yeah.

I think there's a language barrier there somewhere.


((I thought the second response was enlightening though. )
Maybe my last sentence say it all.

The first ES was launch in 2014 March... its already approx 1.5 years.. no one did their fork fluid flush?? Or the ES do not use fork fluid?? Correct me if im wrong
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Maybe my last sentence say it all.

The first ES was launch in 2014 March... its already approx 1.5 years.. no one did their fork fluid flush?? Or the ES do not use fork fluid?? Correct me if im wrong
To be honest this is the same question i would want to know the answer to if i was going to go for the ES. I suspect it does have fork oil but i have no idea of the process to replace the fluid and i would want to know.

Like RaYzerman says ideally we need access to the workshop manual - anything is possible with a manual

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While this may not be an exact replica of an FJR USD fork, should be close to the procedure. I'd just caution we'll find out specific differences as we get experience on the FJR. As with GenII, the trick is getting the bolt out of the bottom of the forks, which sometimes requires a special tool to hold the cartridge from turning (Kawi guy used a paint stick). Impact gun recommended because it has speed. I have gotten around the special tool by leaving the fork assembled, compressing it as much as possible while held in a vice, and while someone else takes the bolt out.

Anyhow, as I said before, if you've done forks before, the USD forks should not be all that intimidating.

If you check the parts diagram, you'll see it's all similar..... and I'm curious why that diagram does not show any bushings.... perhaps the entire lower tube is the bushing?
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if you've done forks before, the USD forks should not be all that intimidating.
Yeah, I've done forks before. That ended my suspension service career!

I'll crack into lots of things on bikes, cars and trucks, but I've fired myself from suspension work.

Good insights on how the service procedures would work, though. I think you're right.

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There's a lot more stuff to periodically service, and reside at a higher level of priority, than the fork oil on newer ES FJRs. Fork oil change is such a minor issue that it is obscure both in the service manual and the owners manual. Rule of thumb, I change every two years. No need to do it any more often than that. And I use a proven true synthetic fork oil. The service manual for the ES models does a good job of walking you through removing the forks and getting to the point where you can pour out the old oil.
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