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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 11-27-2014, 05:30 AM Thread Starter
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ES- nAnyone got the suspension light on the dash yet?

Light is on and no electronic suspension. The menu for adjusting it is now gone also. Screen just skips past it when you look to try and adjust. Anyone else had this and what did they find? Manual is useless as it just says see the dealer for the idiot light.

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I guess all we can suggest you "see the dealer"

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Shop manual says there should be a fault code 'after the engine is stopped'. Should be in the suspension screen, top window. Doesn't state whether to stop engine with the key or kill switch….might try both and see if the screen shows a code.
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It should throw up a fault code.

Can perform a diagnostic on the SCU ... Suspension Control Unit.
(really need a service manual for the diagnostic tests)

Try the basics, fuse or the SCU's coupler.
Other than that, visit a dealer, warranty.

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Salesman in a dealership asked me a long time ago why I wouldn't buy an ES. Don't need it and unproven YAMAHA technology is just more stuff to break. Technology on moving, vibrating vehicles is not a good thing, I said. We have screwed up '13 cruise controls (reflash ECU), and now the electronical suspension problems begin. Not to be a naysayer, and realizing one report does not a trend make, I believe we'll see more and more of problems like these as the bikes get a little age and more than a few miles on them.

Then throw in the fact that YAMAHA has apparently made it impossible for us to fix our problems. Now it seems you have to visit the dealerships' service departments. Good luck with that- like JoeBagOfDonuts Yamaha Tech has any clue about anything electronic. As much as I have been lusting for a '13 with a cruise control I think I'll pass. As long as my low tech '07 continues to keep me out of the dealerships I'll continue to ride it.
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I checked the fuses this morning and it was not burned and looked fine. I check the dash with key on and then shut down with the kill switch. Showing a code of 44. Anyone with a shop manual that knows what 44 means?

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My '13 manual says that #44 is "EEPROM fault code". I suspect that it is the same in the '14 ES manual.

From an engineering viewpoint, it just doesn't make sense to remap fault codes from model to model.

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Ran the diagnostic code 84 and it reset the suspension stepper motors and the pre-load. All is good and no need to go to the dealer for this one.
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Ran the diagnostic code 84 and it reset the suspension stepper motors and the pre-load. All is good and no need to go to the dealer for this one.
Cool, got it fixed with minimal trouble. This kinds of kicks rbentnail's anti-tech rant square in the nuts. Kicks his 24/7 rip on dealerships there too.

Seems whenever anyone prefaces a statement with "not to be a naysayer" it's likely as not they then go on to precisely be a naysayer.

Screwed up '13 cruise controls? What a bunch of malarkey. Mine works perfectly, as it has from day one.

Rbentnail, you make whatever statements you have to to justify your '07 to be superior to newer models but that's just your personal fantasy, not reality.



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Cool, got it fixed with minimal trouble. This kinds of kicks rbentnail's anti-tech rant square in the nuts. Kicks his 24/7 rip on dealerships there too.

Seems whenever anyone prefaces a statement with "not to be a naysayer" it's likely as not they then go on to precisely be a naysayer.

Screwed up '13 cruise controls? What a bunch of malarkey. Mine works perfectly, as it has from day one.

Rbentnail, you make whatever statements you have to to justify your '07 to be superior to newer models but that's just your personal fantasy, not reality.
Your anti-me rant is understandable but a little background:

Maybe I'm just one of the lucky folks in life whose personal aura runs counter to the normal magnetic fields of the globe but I have had no luck, and fewer good things to come from today's world of electronic gadgetry. It really started a few yrs ago when my 2010 F150 had to have 2 computers replaced within a week of driving it new off the lot. My "smart" phone can't remember from one week to the next who my contacts are. It decided to delete them all last week so I spent a nice rainy day 200 miles from home in a retail store on vacation to attempt to get them back. Got about half of them. Additionally, I do electronics for a living in a mfr'ing facility. We have 25 y/o machines and we have 5 y/o machines- guess which are more troublesome. Right, the 5 y/o updated electronic ones. Motor encoders suck, transducers suck, etc., etc., etc. Over the past 2.5 yrs we've replaced more electronic components on the 5 newest, latest and greatest than on the 15 oldest ones combined.

So now it's a good idea to put this stuff on bikes? IMHO no. The EE's can't make it work reliably on stationary machinery, I'll believe it when I see it work reliably on these bikes. Since '06 the 4 most prevalent problems on FJRs are what? Hmmmmm....'06 instrumentation recall. Electronic. '06-'08 ignition switch. Electrical. '07-'08 ECU altitude sickness. Electronic. '07- '12 spider/connector faults. Electrical. IMO putting more electronic stuff on bikes is a mistake. Maybe my exposure and frustrations with the technology have jaded me. I hope that's all it is. I certainly do not want anyone to suffer the electronic troubles I have/do.

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