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Gears shift difficulty & tripping off while gearing down

HELP!!! I've got 2 problems on my 2005 FJR please:

1) Changing from gears 2 to 3, the gear shift becomes hard to kick up, hard as it would be if it was on the last gear (5) and can't move up anymore. But I realise if I give it hard, persistent kicks, it clicks into gear 3 from 2 at the 3rd kick everytime.

2) Also, when I've grabbed the clutch all the way in and gearing down, say 4, 3, 2, 1, then maybe I keep the clutch pulled in to roll for a bit, the bike would sometimes go off. I'd then have to start it back up while still rolling down. After a few attempts, it'd start back up.

ANY IDEA WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THESE PROBLEMS???
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Factory or aftermarket levers?

Check your clutch lever. Remove it and you'll see a little brass bushing in the lever and a push pin under the reservoir with a little rubber sealing boot. Make sure the bushing and boot are in good condition and not torn. Either one will keep your clutch from releasing.

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Factory or aftermarket levers?

Check your clutch lever. Remove it and you'll see a little brass bushing in the lever and a push pin under the reservoir with a little rubber sealing boot. Make sure the bushing and boot are in good condition and not torn. Either one will keep your clutch from releasing.
Factory levers.
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PM the lever bushings. Do a visual inspection and replace the brass bushings if needed. They're cheap and a wear item by design.

Ridden wet. Put up hard.

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+1 on the lever bushings...... three neglected items and given the age of the bike.....
Lever bushings, clutch flush and bleed, lube shifter linkages. You could also do a clutch soak, that cleanup and oiling also is helpful.
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Gears shift difficulty & tripping off while gearing down

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HELP!!! I've got 2 problems on my 2005 FJR please:
1) Changing from gears 2 to 3, the gear shift becomes hard to kick up, hard as it would be if it was on the last gear (5) and can't move up anymore. But I realise if I give it hard, persistent kicks, it clicks into gear 3 from 2 at the 3rd kick everytime.
2) Also, when I've grabbed the clutch all the way in and gearing down, say 4, 3, 2, 1, then maybe I keep the clutch pulled in to roll for a bit, the bike would sometimes go off. I'd then have to start it back up while still rolling down. After a few attempts, it'd start back up.
ANY IDEA WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THESE PROBLEMS???
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I can't help on the stalling issue. Use a good fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank, mixed as the label directions tell you, for several tanks. See if that helps, and keep us posted.

Please DO NOT kick the gearshift lever hard. If the next gear does not engage nicely, let out the clutch briefly (a second or less) then pull the clutch lever and try again, but not using excessive force. Clutch levers not made by Yamaha may cause shifting problems like this. The gearshift lever pivots can get dirty and sticky, so clean and lubricate the shifter pivots on a regular basis. You can dis-assemble the main shift lever pivot, to clean it and apply new grease. Everybody does this little job, now and then.
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HELP!!! I've got 2 problems on my 2005 FJR please:
1) Changing from gears 2 to 3, the gear shift becomes hard to kick up, hard as it would be if it was on the last gear (5) and can't move up anymore. But I realise if I give it hard, persistent kicks, it clicks into gear 3 from 2 at the 3rd kick everytime.
2) Also, when I've grabbed the clutch all the way in and gearing down, say 4, 3, 2, 1, then maybe I keep the clutch pulled in to roll for a bit, the bike would sometimes go off. I'd then have to start it back up while still rolling down. After a few attempts, it'd start back up.
ANY IDEA WHAT COULD BE CAUSING THESE PROBLEMS???
Larry,

I can't help on the stalling issue. Use a good fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank, mixed as the label directions tell you, for several tanks. See if that helps, and keep us posted.

Please DO NOT kick the gearshift lever hard. If the next gear does not engage nicely, let out the clutch briefly (a second or less) then pull the clutch lever and try again, but not using excessive force. Clutch levers not made by Yamaha may cause shifting problems like this. The gearshift lever pivots can get dirty and sticky, so clean and lubricate the shifter pivots on a regular basis. You can dis-assemble the main shift lever pivot, to clean it and apply new grease. Everybody does this little job, now and then.
Thanks Red. Sounds really helpful. I'll try it out
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+1 on the lever bushings...... three neglected items and given the age of the bike.....
Lever bushings, clutch flush and bleed, lube shifter linkages. You could also do a clutch soak, that cleanup and oiling also is helpful.
OK then. Thanks
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I've got a '13 and find that blipping the throttle helps to lube and separate the clutch plates when the bike is cold and keep it from jumping when shifted into first. Also, pre-loading the shift lever, by putting pressure on it, then shifting up or down quickly helps (also when the bike is cold). My bike shifts very well after it has warmed up, about 10 miles or so. After riding a BMW with the shift-assist, the Yamaha semi-wet clutch is not the best I've seen.
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Did I miss where the OP explained if he uses or doesn't use his clutch?

Ridden wet. Put up hard.

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