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Want to eliminate ABS ,want to have conventional brake system,can that be done?
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ABS is a conventional brake system. A braking system for a highway vehicle without ABS is, I believe, referred to as a Cro-Magnon system. If you want a huge downgrade in safety and performance, the easiest way is to trade for a Harley that’s a few years old. Someone may be along shortly to tell you of a fuse that you may be able to remove to disable a portion of your braking functionality. Ride safe.
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Itís possible, yes.

If you have to ask whether itís possible however, I would suggest that you leave well enough alone as you donít know enough about the braking system to know how it works.
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Want to eliminate ABS ,want to have conventional brake system,can that be done?
Of course it can any abs system can be removed, it may though up a warning light and you may need to remove the abs valve block and work out some electrical connections. You will also have a lot of pipework on your bike to remove.

But removing abs is a simple as.

You do need to look into the legality where you are and insurance problems?

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Is it the ABS or the linked front brake you want to remove?
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If you don't hammer on the brakes and activate ABS, it isn't ABS. The brake fluid paths are flow-through or bypass the ABS circuit within the pump at all times until you activate ABS.... I don't know why you would want to remove it. HOWEVER, just pull the fuse..... might trigger a warning light or code, but......ABS will be off.


As far as I'm concerned, you want ABS for that panic situation where you can't modulate the brakes better than the ABS ECU can....... saved me more than once, wouldn't be without it.
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Is it the ABS or the linked front brake you want to remove?
I could understand wanting to get rid of that feature - I've never been entirely happy with the linked front brake at slow speeds on gravel or a loose surface when instinct tells you to to just use the back brake and you don't want the front locking and dumping you.
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The linked brakes are modulated by the metering valve and proportioning valve... if you use the rear brake normally, there will be little pressure up front, and it may be delayed. If you stomp on it, there will be front caliper activation (see the FSM). I don't think you can easily lock up a front wheel using only the rear brake pedal. If you're talking gravel parking lot applying rear brake as you should for low speed manoeuvers, you won't lock the front with the rear brake.

By comparison, a Honda linked brake system is what I call real linked. Apply either front or rear and the opposite end will get hauled down quickly. After owning two, when I first got on the FJR, I thought it had no rear brakes.
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I could understand wanting to get rid of that feature - I've never been entirely happy with the linked front brake at slow speeds on gravel or a loose surface when instinct tells you to to just use the back brake and you don't want the front locking and dumping you.
Why haven't you been happy? I use the rear brake only in the situations you describe all the time with no issue. It's unobtrusive and seamless.


As for all you others pissing on the OP - have you ever put a lot of miles on a Gen I with ABS? It isn't all that great imho. Not nearly as sophisticated as the Gen II+ and solves some problems, and creates others. Not that we know which Gen the OP has......
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