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I would not have a lithium, have had to boost some FJR's because the lithium won't wake up enough at near freezing temps. They need a significant draw to wake up (FJR headlights do not come on with key on) and I cringe when I hear them cranking slow (like that is good for a starter motor). More expensive and might cause other expensive issues. You won't notice the 5 lbs.... stick to AGM in my opinion.
Lithium retrofit companies actually advise using the stater to heat the battery to the point the battery can provide the current to spin the starter. I've done it, and it works. But not long after got rid of the fancy LiFePO4 battery.

The instructions said to hold the starter for a second or so then stop. Repeat up to 5 times if the engine doesn't start.

Not worried about the starter windings under such conditions, it is the brushes stationary at one place on the commutator that I would worry about.

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Myself and friends have had good luck with WPS batteries. WPS is one of the 2 big motorcycle parts and accessories distributors. No telling who makes the batteries for WPS, but WPS seems to demand and get quality product.

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The sort of odd dimensions and placement of the FJR battery box does limit one's options.


This won't work for everyone, but I've been happy with my use of an EarthX LiFe battery after about 5 years having it in my '13. Weight savings is about 8 lbs. Since I don't have to deal with abnormally cold weather riding, this isn't really a concern of mine. But FWIW this battery works fine starting down into the high 20's F, which as low as I've had occasion to try it. Most recently departing the next morning after the Reuben Run dinner, with the bike covered in frost and the ambient temperature gauge showing 28 degF it started right up and away I went. Yep, pricey, but it's my money.


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YUASA YT14B-BS being sold for US$86.88 at Wamart.com Free shipping. Just a heads up, mine is arriving tomorrow.
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One other thing Phil, all of the AGM batteries i’ve ever seen were sealed, no vent and no access to add water or acid at the start. You can install them upside down and be ok if needed, I wouldn’t, but you could.

Ferret, on the sea foam, while I do believe it to be a good product I will add that on 2 different bikes I pickeled them for the winter using Stabil and a sea foam mix. In the spring 2 years in a row I found the carbs that I had rebuilt the previous fall full of a green jello like substance that was extremely difficult to remove. I only used it for those 2 years and only ever had the green jello those 2 years and never again since I quit using it. I do use it when I can run it through but never for any storage time. Just sayin.

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Today I am most concerned about the deep part, many YT14B-BS replacements list their dimension at 3 inches or more.
YTX14 variants are 3-1/2” deep but the YT14B is 2-3/4. Yamaha’s choice is unfortunate because the YTX is more plentiful and about 30% lower cost.

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Rich, no flame here, my friend that has the Shorai in his triumph trophy has had the same experience. As I said earlier I believe that lithium batteries are improving daily and I believe at some point we’ll be looking at the lead acid batteries the same as we do harley’s.
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I would not have a lithium, have had to boost some FJR's because the lithium won't wake up enough at near freezing temps. They need a significant draw to wake up (FJR headlights do not come on with key on) and I cringe when I hear them cranking slow (like that is good for a starter motor). More expensive and might cause other expensive issues. You won't notice the 5 lbs.... stick to AGM in my opinion.
I didn't have any problems with my Shorai down to freezing. Maybe it never actually got that cold being parked outside with the possibility of sunlight.


Turn on heated grips, or the hazard lights to pull some juice and warm it up. I never had to, but for others....

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Ferret, on the sea foam, while I do believe it to be a good product I will add that on 2 different bikes I pickeled them for the winter using Stabil and a sea foam mix. In the spring 2 years in a row I found the carbs that I had rebuilt the previous fall full of a green jello like substance that was extremely difficult to remove. I only used it for those 2 years and only ever had the green jello those 2 years and never again since I quit using it. I do use it when I can run it through but never for any storage time. Just sayin.

Interesting. I have never mixed Seafoam and Stabil, but I have been using Seafoam by itself for the past 10 years in motorcycles, ATV's, lawn mowers, weed whackers, leaf blowers and chain saws in my garage/shed and never an issue starting/running even after 9 months of storage without being started (although most sit only about 6 months). I have total faith in Seafoam but will be sure not to mix it with any Stabil on your recommendation.

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Yes sir, i’m not sure of what caused the green jello stuff but the only thing that was different was the Seafoam, could’ve been a chemical reaction with the Stabil but quite frankly I don’t know.

I haven’t had it happen since I quit using the seafoam (for storage) and now I just pickle them with Stabil and Lucas carb cleaner which is a milder carb cleaner in my opinion, everything just starts easily in the spring and just runs w/o issue.

Some of the older bikes have been stored that way for up to 5yrs and generally just start and run. That’s my .02, hope it helps.

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