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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-05-2016, 04:40 PM Thread Starter
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Kill Switch question

Hi all,

I hope you're enjoying your weekend !

I'd like to add an extra kill switch/button, hidden somewhere on the bike, does anyone already made this ?
- Any tips where shall I tap the kill switch cable to extend it with toggle switch ? (which color? Red-White and/or Red-Black cable ?)

This is for a Gen II (2006)

Many thanks in advance
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First thing is to tell us what yr and model you have. Wire colors vary.

Second thing is consider putting that information in a signature, like I did below, so we never have to guess again. Tools/Quick Links/Edit Signature.

Third- I do electrical work for a living so:

- you are not tapping into a wire. You are going to cut a wire.
- you will work with a wire, not a cable, which is multiple wires inside one outer jacket.
- makes no difference which of the wires you cut as long as you cut it in the right place placing your additional (added) kill switch in series with the existing one.

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First thing is to tell us what yr and model you have. Wire colors vary.

Second thing is consider putting that information in a signature, like I did below, so we never have to guess again. Tools/Quick Links/Edit Signature.

Third- I do electrical work for a living so:

- you are not tapping into a wire. You are going to cut a wire.
- you will work with a wire, not a cable, which is multiple wires inside one outer jacket.
- makes no difference which of the wires you cut as long as you cut it in the right place placing your additional (added) kill switch in series with the existing one.
ive been a certified low voltage tech for decades

i NEVER recommend cutting or tapping into any OEM
wiring harness Ever

no less over time it usually results in ' trouble '......... issues

invariably corrosion shows up

definitely NOT recommended to any vehicle that has ' CANBUS ' [i know the fjr doesnt ]
over time will affect the original function of that wire lead

may stop a ride away opportunistic theft
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ive been a certified low voltage tech for decades

i NEVER recommend cutting or tapping into any OEM
wiring harness Ever

no less over time it usually results in ' trouble '......... issues

invariably corrosion shows up
Yea! because the way yamaha treats their ground wire spiders, NO ONE could duplicate that kind of quality!!!!!!

Cut away Dude. As long as you take some care you can easily splice in a hidden switch into the kill circuit. Done correctly it will last as long as the rest of the wiring.

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You won't have to cut into the harness if you switch out the low tension side of the coils.

Just add a DPDT switch in-line and route it somewhere convenient.
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As above, the easiest way is to add 2 wires to the low tension side of the coil to the neutral or frame of the bike.

Just need 2 piggyback adaptors for a female spade connector.

Hardest part is to find a location for the switch.

Trust me I'm a Electrical Fitter Mechanic. With advavced trade certs.

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Listen to the electrical pros..... me, I wouldn't although it's not an awful idea really. If I were doing it, I'd cut into the low current side of the starter relay, if switched off the starter won't turn.

Your problem one day is the switch will wear out/corrode/otherwise fail from perhaps using it all the time or not using it enough. Carry a spare switch you can swap out if one day you can't start your bike.

However, I'd worry less about it being stolen from starting it... who is going to hotwire it? Nobody is going to take the time. They'll just push it onto a trailer or bring a lift and slide it on to a truck in two minutes. How many FJR's have been stolen.... um, not any that I've ever heard of from all the traffic on these forums.

Worry less, ride more. Fergedabout the switch idea is my advice.
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I could tell the story of an acquaintence who, at one time, worked with some other guys using an old surplus bread company panel truck. They had storage bins along each side, pulled up to bikes, manhandled (lifted) them into the back (as in tossed them in willy-nilly), and had them stripped down by the time they got across town for the next theft. Who cared about scratching the bikes? Even got a cop bike one night and used the cop radio to keep track of doings.

Kill switches made no difference.
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Kill switches made no difference.
Exactly what I thought. I don't know a single person who ever had his bike stolen where the thieves rode it away. It was always picked up or rolled into a truck or trailer.

But hey, it's the OP's bike and if he wants to put a second kill switch on it who am I to judge? Maybe he likes to leave the keys in it. Or maybe his crackhead brother likes to go joyriding in the night. Maybe his kid is one of them on YouTube that likes to play with big boy toys while daddy is away. What do I know?

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Exactly what I thought. I don't know a single person who ever had his bike stolen where the thieves rode it away. It was always picked up or rolled into a truck or trailer.

But hey, it's the OP's bike and if he wants to put a second kill switch on it who am I to judge? Maybe he likes to leave the keys in it. Or maybe his crackhead brother likes to go joyriding in the night. Maybe his kid is one of them on YouTube that likes to play with big boy toys while daddy is away. What do I know?
I thought the same. I wouldn't bother, but if I did bother, I'd do it the way I suggested
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