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post #141 of 148 (permalink) Old 06-23-2020, 06:26 PM
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I would give dealer your s/n and see if S4 mod has been done. They take cover off S4, pull the spider out and then hook up a cable that hooks to all 5 or 6 wires then run it to ground. If it has not been done, ask dealer to do it.
If it has been done and it acts up again, see my post about removing S6 on this thread.
Did S6 just recently on my 08 and now have 1000 miles on bike since. Everything working great.

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I use an electrically conductive corrosion inhibiting compound available locally called NOALOX. I can't stress enough-> DO NOT USE DIELECTRIC GREASE!!!!!!!!! Each spring, during other routine maintenance, I remove each spider (all 8 ) to inspect and re-goop. I made it ten years and believe me, I ride in rain. At least 2 hurricanes and 1 tropical storm. And almost daily southeast rain. And on & on. Rain is not a factor, time is.

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rbentnail: Thanks will do. I checked one of them LH side and was good. I just Off with its head S6 and soldered 6 wires plus a #14 ground wire together. I took the other end about 12 inches to a 6mm hole on frame and bolted it down to frame. I have about 6 friends coming buy for an evening ride so Im on schedular. Thanks everyone for input.
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You maybe need to know: soldering and bikes may not be a good mix. the stiff (soldered) wires can get broken by vibration. It's NOT a big problem if you "immobilize" the wires just before the soldered joints. Typically, you can U-turn the wires just outside of the soldering, and Ty-wrap the wire bundle back to the connector body, or Ty-wrap the connector and the wiring to something solid nearby.

The soldered joints may last a good while without doing this, but the problem may be hard to find if you do get breakage (which may happen inside the wire insulation). Ty-wraps are cheap insurance, there.

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seems Soldering and running new grounds from ground spiders and connecting to frame and battery if possible is a good idea. More ground paths .
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I solved what i thought was a spider issue on my 2010 by simply scraping clean the negative battery terminal, I initially checked s6 and the associated connectors and the all seemed to be in good condition, I was going to look at s4 next but thought i would rule out the simple things first.

I also got a new battery as the old one was way past the use by date.

i run a usb accessory to charge a phone while riding but this should not pull more that 2A max.

I initially thought this may have drawn too much current and caused a breakdown of the spiders, fingers crossed that the s4 is ok, ill re post if I have any further issues.
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seems Soldering and running new grounds from ground spiders and connecting to frame and battery if possible is a good idea. More ground paths .
Maybe yes, maybe no. I've found that more ground paths are not necessary. Better connected ones (soldered) work just fine.

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I solved what i thought was a spider issue on my 2010 by simply scraping clean the negative battery terminal, I initially checked s6 and the associated connectors and the all seemed to be in good condition, I was going to look at s4 next but thought i would rule out the simple things first.

I also got a new battery as the old one was way past the use by date.

i run a usb accessory to charge a phone while riding but this should not pull more that 2A max.

I initially thought this may have drawn too much current and caused a breakdown of the spiders, fingers crossed that the s4 is ok, ill re post if I have any further issues.
Seems to me that where you have your usb charger connected would be more important to spider maintenance than the minimal amperage it draws. I have mine connected via adapter to my battery tender cable that is connected directly to the battery. No current flow through any spider whatsoever.
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