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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-22-2020, 11:17 AM Thread Starter
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Based on R1?

Sorry if this has been asked before but I haven't been able to find any answer one way or the other and I'm curious. Is the FJR (first generation particularly) based on the R1, or is it an independent design? I know the Concours is ZX-10 / ZX-14 based, but have not seen any mention for the FJR.
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Here’s what it says on the fjr info website, I’m regards to a gen 1.

http://www.fjr1300.info/specs.html


1298cc, liquid-cooled, 16-valve, side-driven DOHC, in-line 4-cylinder. Engine is a fully stressed chassis member, and has an R1-derived one-piece cylinder and crankcase assembly with electroplated ceramic composite cylinder bores and lightweight forged pistons with carburized connecting rods. The crankshaft features two gear-driven secondary counterbalancers with built-in shock absorbers.

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Slightly related.to the topic...what got me into the sport touring realm was my (first year of production) '86 Kawasaki Concours (aka ZG1000). It was closely based on the ground-breaking Ninja 900, punched out to 1000cc, with added shaft drive and bags (& larger fairing). I've always thought that was the epitome of SPORT touring. Alas, the 2nd year model they raised the handlebars and the endless march towards a swoopier Gold Wing began.

For its time, that was a fantastic bike! Unmatched by anything short of the BMWs of its time at 2x the price. Bought mine in '91 with 1,400 miles on it for $3k and sold it in 2006 when I got my first FJR. Over 75,000 awesome miles, from the Pacifix to the Atlantic, a suitable successor to my '81 GS850G. Ahh nostalgia.

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. I've always thought that was the epitome of SPORT touring. Alas, the 2nd year model they raised the handlebars and the endless march towards a swoopier Gold Wing began.


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I've always felt that way about handlebar risers/set backs and giant windshields on Honda ST 1300's and FJR's.
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Hereís what it says on the fjr info website, Iím regards to a gen 1.

http://www.fjr1300.info/specs.html


1298cc, liquid-cooled, 16-valve, side-driven DOHC, in-line 4-cylinder. Engine is a fully stressed chassis member, and has an R1-derived one-piece cylinder and crankcase assembly with electroplated ceramic composite cylinder bores and lightweight forged pistons with carburized connecting rods. The crankshaft features two gear-driven secondary counterbalancers with built-in shock absorbers.
Yabbut different design... the direction they took was to eliminate cast iron cylinder bores with all aluminum engine, cylinder bores then Nikasil coated and adding balance shafts to quell the vibrations. FJR engine was new, but incorporated these features... pure marketing-speak to say it was anything much to do with an R1 really. Rode an R1? Wow!
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Yeah, I endurance-raced and R1 for a year or two. The FJR is a great sport-touring bike but it is no R1!

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Imagine an FJR with that R-1 cross plane motor in it.... sort of what my son has with his MT-10 only without the fairing and bags.
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Imagine an FJR with that R-1 cross plane motor in it.... sort of what my son has with his MT-10 only without the fairing and bags.
And about 230 less lbs! THAT is the huge difference imho. I mean the engine yes, but a 640 lb machine is NEVER going to perform like that R1!

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