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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-20-2020, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Will this mount kill my subframe?

https://www.amazon.com/SHAD-Y0FJ16ST.../dp/B00IHS4M1U

I ended up getting the cheaper fjr I posted about last week. Subframe is in good shape but the top box is mounted using this kit and not the one that replaces the grab bars. Should I be concerned? It will be used by the wife as a back rest so o want to make sure I’m not over stressing it.
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In reality, it is doing nothing to protect the part of the subframe most prone to cracking... remove back seat and look where it hooks in... right about that area in the tail......
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Here's a typical Gen2/3 subframe fracture:



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https://www.amazon.com/SHAD-Y0FJ16ST.../dp/B00IHS4M1U

I ended up getting the cheaper fjr I posted about last week. Subframe is in good shape but the top box is mounted using this kit and not the one that replaces the grab bars. Should I be concerned? It will be used by the wife as a back rest so o want to make sure Iím not over stressing it.
That is not the correct rack for your bike. You need a Y0FJ15ST. Here is SHAD's page on it: https://www.shadusa.com/collections/...ducts/y0fj15st

The correct rack replaces the stock rack and has grab handles.

You might also look at the "passenger safety belt" products. She'd be holding on to you, and that's probably better.
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What Ray and Ludwig say. That mount is very minimal, basically junk, and will eventually cause a subframe failure. If you plan on doing any serious riding with a case on the back with your wife resting on it, I'd go for the new mount ASAP. $100 well spent.
The pics of the SHAD mount leave a lot to be desired on that website, but it looks a lot like my first Gen GIVI mount that has grab bars integrated into the mount that offer a great deal of subframe support.

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Golgo, that is the exact mount I had on my 14a in addition to a stiffy kit when I found my broken subframe. Pull the topbox off and don’t use it until you get a proper mount like the tube rack or the Yamaha heavy aluminum rack. What you have is basically junk !

I would also add a stiffy as well because quite frankly with out it on mine with the broken subframe there would’ve been piece’s of the back of my bike all over the road. On my bike I kept things light in the top box thanks to many warnings from the guy’s here about broken subframes. And probably 95% of the time my top box was empty. So with that mount you’ll probably notice that the top box flops around which is transferred into the subframe causing it to break,take the box off! That is the older mount that Shad originally offered prior to the updated tube rack, don’t use it !

Also Gary’s picture of the broken frame is spot on although mine was in many more piece’s.

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I ordered the one shown above, but to my surprise I received the much sturdier tube support, which basically replaces the OEM "handles". Initially I was pissed because I got the wrong part, but now I am happy as it seems to be the right thing to install as it's much sturdier.

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I’m thinking that maybe Shad figured it out and discontinued the mount above because they figured it out that their mount was a contributor to broken subframes & the legal group pushed for a solution like the Givi sr357 that was the one with the good rep.

Even though they all plead ignorance I’d bet that there was a lot of discussions behind closed doors at Yamaha and Shad despite their claims when mine broke that they’d never heard of that before, and that I had to have done something to cause it to break, it had to be my fault. Again, only use a givi or Shad tube rack or the Yamaha heavy aluminum rack.
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Then again...on some marital days who hasn't hoped for that subframe to break??!!!!!
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