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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-07-2020, 01:08 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys. I've been on a few day trip to AR with my buddy and while going though some off-the-grid back roads my friend had to make an emergency stop. The only area he found was a dirt / rock lot next to what looked like a tiny quarry. 5 min later it was time to get back on the road and for that I had to ride up the incline on a fairly loose surface. I got on a throttle which did spin the rear wheel a bit and I already started to turn left onto the road with front wheel already on the pavement. At that very moment the darn traction control decided that it doesn't like the wheel spin and cut the power, which almost immediately stalled the engine and with the bars already turned a bit to the left the bike ended up on its right side. Thanks to the canyon cages there was no damage. I learned a valuable lesson to turn off TCS in a situation like that. Just wanted to share my experience, might be helpful for someone.
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Well THAT'S irritating! If I had TCS, I'd make a note to turn it off in such a situation.

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Good tip. Glad to hear your bike wasn't damaged.

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I have heard of that happening from a buddy of mine on a C14.

Mine will spin the rear on gravel so TC is not immediate.

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As an adventure bike rider, Super Tenere, I know this. If I, for instance, try to climb a steep gravel track with the TCS on, the bike will start bucking and hopping, like a horse, as the TCS switches in and out. I have to switch the TCS off for these situations, and allow the back wheel to spin.

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TC can be annoying, how did we ever do without it on the older FJR's, lol.
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As an adventure bike rider, Super Tenere, I know this. If I, for instance, try to climb a steep gravel track with the TCS on, the bike will start bucking and hopping, like a horse, as the TCS switches in and out. I have to switch the TCS off for these situations, and allow the back wheel to spin.
In addition to my FJR I also have a Super Tenere. I always turn the TC off when on gravel. The ability to spin the rear wheel is absolutely necessary on gravel.

The situation described by Carlson is not one where I would have thought to turn off the TC. Good information and something to be aware of.

I agree with RaYzerman: TC is annoying. In my opinion it is also largely unecessary.

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My Kwaki sport tourer has TC and I can't figure it out. I've played on gravel a little and it seems like it can't decide whether to let the wheel spin or not. And once I was going uphill on wet pavement and I thought, 'let's try it,' I hit the gas and the rear wheel spun up and headed to a different state before I dabbed to save it. (??)

So far I find it only good for killing the fun of a spontaneous wheelie, because you have to stop and turn it off before you plan to do one. Whoopee, never mind.

I believe the ABS is pretty solid though... I haven't found it to be sketchy.

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Activated my ABS for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I was hooning down a very goaty road. Came up over a short, steep rise and the downhill side made a quick right. Jammed on the brakes and because of the poor road condition, the front wheel must have skipped around and I felt the ABS kick in.

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