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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-20-2020, 11:12 PM Thread Starter
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Doing a little searching on partshark, it seems the internals for the "A" suspension was changed on the "Gen 3" 2013-2015. Then forks changed again on the "Gen 4" 2016A. The cartridge assembly, the part that provides the dampening (1MC-2315L-00-00) is not available for the 2013A-2015A, but the 3P6-23170-00-00 is available for the 2012A.

When doing a comparison, the outer tube, inner tube, spring, spacer, seals etc. are all the same part numbers on the 2012A and the 2013A-2015A. So it looks like you can purchase the cartridge, rod and cap for a 2012A and bolt it into a 2013A-2015A fork.

You would need these part numbers: 5JW-23111-01-00 BOLT, CAP 5JW-2318Y-00-00 PLUNGER 3P6-23170-00-00 CYLINDER COMP, FRONT FORK

Do your own homework to verify above.

I would also question the dealer as to how the parts they are expecting you to pay for were damaged in the first place. Forks with a lot of miles can get "burnished" spots on the tubes when the bushings get worn, but a "chip" on a rod that is bathed in oil? Sounds more like a improper dis-assembly to me.

Not sure about Colorado, but in NC they are required by law to show you parts that need replacement. My guess is the "chipped" area is shaped similar to vice-grip teeth. Or, has bits of concrete dust from the shop floor imbedded in it.
Thanks Neal, This information is appreciated and the closest I have to an answer to my dilemma. Truth be told, I took the forks off, and had the seal set on the left side pretty well I think. I took apart the right side but couldnt get the seal set well, so I decided to bring it in to have it done right. I could have screwed something up. I thought I was fairly careful, but cannot really blame the dealer as I am not 100% sure. Still cannot believe that forks cannot be purchased for a 2014? I think the Right side is the only issue they are having. I will definitely get the parts back when I pick them up, after this is hopefully fixed. Not sure what a plan B is at this point.

I will send the dealer the parts #'s and see if they can get it to work.

Thanks again.

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Seems everybody's jumping to the conclusion a new cartridge is needed. I'm concerned you're going to spend big money on a part you may not need. A pic of the "chip" and the part it's on would be helpful. OR what is the part number the dealer is saying to replace..... surely they have the ability to look that up also and tell you the price.
I also don't know how you'd damage a cartridge if you removed it prior to trying to pull your forks apart....... I've done many, I'm not understanding........ "compression rod" is not a normal terminology for any part in the forks, it's nowhere in the parts catalog. The dealer should be able to tell you the actual parts catalog part name.

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Agreed with Ray. Call the dealer and have them stop work and get you pics of said "damaged" part. You know there has to be at least a dozen cell phones with cameras walking around the place.
Better yet, just roll down there yourself and take a look see at what they are claiming.
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I’d just about Bet that if you go to the dealer and collect your parts, you could send them to Ray for rebuild for a slight trust worthy fee. No monkey bull-shite just forks that work,,,, Just a suggestion.
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Seems everybody's jumping to the conclusion a new cartridge is needed. I'm concerned you're going to spend big money on a part you may not need.
The O.P. is the one who said he was open to the purchase of an entire new fork.

I agree the verbal description makes no sense. How does one damage a “compression” rod? What kind of damage actually matters?

Push come to shove there should be take-off original equipment cartridge assemblies from those who have installed Traxxion or Andreani kits. Heck, even consider one of those cartridge kits.
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Go in and tell the dealer you may have found one thru a forum but want to verify it's the correct part and snap a pic of it with your phone.

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Go in and tell the dealer you may have found one thru a forum but want to verify it's the correct part and snap a pic of it with your phone.
You shouldn't have to make up an excuse to drop by and see the part, or get a pic sent to you for that matter. Now if they are hiding something it'll be a problem, but if someone is going to claim it's bad, you should have no problem asking for evidence.

That said, if you have to make up an excuse, use Ferret's, that's a good one. :P
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You shouldn't have to make up an excuse to drop by and see the part, or get a pic sent to you for that matter. Now if they are hiding something it'll be a problem, but if someone is going to claim it's bad, you should have no problem asking for evidence.
So true, but to me it seems like his dealer is being kind of evasive

I have a good dealer. I'm pretty sure they would have called me up and asked me to drop by to see the issue as soon as they discovered it.
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So true, but to me it seems like his dealer is being kind of evasive.
Fully agreed, something doesn't pass the smell test; at least that's the way it seems anyway.

I don't have a dealer that I trust, that's why I do everything myself unless I just can't. There is ONE tech that I trust and know at the dealer, but I would have to know for sure that HE is the one touching it.
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I don't have a dealer that I trust, that's why I do everything myself unless I just can't. There is ONE tech that I trust and know at the dealer, but I would have to know for sure that HE is the one touching it.
There is only one tech that has touched any of my bikes for years. He's the head tech at my local Honda Yamaha shop and he's very good. I used to always request him, now they just know if I bring one my bikes in, it goes on his bench. I've also told him if he feels any of my bikes needs anything in his opinion, to just take care of it. He knows I trust him and he takes good care of my bikes. In return, I always make sure to give him gift certificates, or will bring him his favorite pizza ( large Pizza Hut super supreme thin crust) a few days after he works on one of my bikes.
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