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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-28-2020, 01:24 PM
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I was recently trying to make the same decision as you. Was on my second 05 and decided I wanted newer, more features. Yamaha was offering 0% but only for 90days then regular interest rates for remainder. Not interested. I had been looking at used ones and nothing really peaked my interest until local dealer had a 16ES with lots of farkels for what I thought was a good price. The previous owner had bought it new from same dealer and had taken great care of it. He had added a heated Bill Mayer leather seat, clearwater dimmable lights, Give top box with brake and running lights, crashbars front and rear, Yamaha touring windshield, adjustable bar risers and more. It had new tires and was just serviced. 18 k miles $10700. Its amazing how much smoother and more refined feeling the 16 is.
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You may not change the pre-load very often (only when payload weight changes), but the damping (soft vs. hard) is something you may want to adjust based on road conditions. I have the ES and I actually change it during almost all my rides. While I'm on nice smooth roads I may set it to STD or even HARD, but whenever I get back home (Seattle with horrible city streets), I immediately switch to SOFT to give me a smoother ride. Just something to consider...
The roads here in the midwest where I do the vast majority of my riding are similar everywhere I ride, but you're right in that maybe if it was as easy as pushing a button to change, I might try it more.

I did test ride an ES before buying my A, but to be honest I didnt mess with the suspension settings to see if I could tell a difference.

As is, I'm very pleased with the ride quality of my bike.
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So is the electric suspension the only difference between the A and ES on the later models? If so then I will probably look for an A and upgrade the suspension myself like I did on my 05.
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So is the electric suspension the only difference between the A and ES on the later models? If so then I will probably look for an A and upgrade the suspension myself like I did on my 05.
I believe the ES model also has the cornering lights. The electronic suspension also features inverted front fork suspension and if I'm not mistaken the rebound damping is incorporated on both front shocks instead of just one.
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I believe the ES model also has the cornering lights. The electronic suspension also features inverted front fork suspension....

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13 and newer gets you cruise if that is a must have as it is for me. A or ES is not such a big deal, both are good. I like messing with the suspension on the ES as road conditions change. In the end buy the one you like that fits your budget. No wrong answer.
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13 and newer gets you cruise if that is a must have as it is for me. A or ES is not such a big deal, both are good. I like messing with the suspension on the ES as road conditions change. In the end buy the one you like that fits your budget. No wrong answer.
The only caveat to the '13 model is the limitation of 80mph when using the cruise. You may not think that's a big deal, but I know it was an issue for me in the group I was riding with; it was always 'just' below where the group was setting their cruise on those long trips (and HIGHLY annoying). I heard someone had a fix for that, but when I had my '13 it was definitely a bummer. The '14 and above models have their limit at 100mph I believe. Just wanted to mention that.
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The only caveat to the '13 model is the limitation of 80mph when using the cruise. You may not think that's a big deal, but I know it was an issue for me in the group I was riding with; it was always 'just' below where the group was setting their cruise on those long trips (and HIGHLY annoying). I heard someone had a fix for that, but when I had my '13 it was definitely a bummer. The '14 and above models have their limit at 100mph I believe. Just wanted to mention that.
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