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post #11 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-22-2020, 03:33 PM
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Use a Dowty washer, fit and forget.
Those are fricken cool...I'd buy a couple. Thanks for the info!!

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but a washer with a neoprene skirt, that seems like a really good idea

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Those are fricken cool...I'd buy a couple. Thanks for the info!!

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but a washer with a neoprene skirt, that seems like a really good idea
Before retiring, my commuter car was a '97 Chevy Cavalier, and it had one of those. I thought it was a terrific idea and always wondered why it wasn't the standard everywhere.

As for no washer, it'd drive me nuts, too.

I have removed the drain plug, put my finger over the hole, and worked a washer back on the bolt before replacing it before and lost maybe a pint of oil. The FJR will be slightly less convenient because of the placement of the hole.

The vacuum cleaner trick that justacrossthehill mentioned is done a lot over on the RV forums (just saying that makes me feel old) to install Fumoto valves. If it'll work on a 6.8 liter V-10 Ford, I'd say there's a good chance it'd work on a Yamaha. I've never done it myself, but ......

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The drain plug on my Corvette has a O ring embedded in a groove on the bolt head. No need to replace unless damaged. Never had to replace it in 20 years of ownership. Always thought this was a great idea. Why all drain plugs aren’t like this - probably because they cost a few cents more to make...

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Now I will come clean on all this as I had this same issue several years ago when I changed the oil in my 14 fjr, when I dumped the old oil the crush washer was In the bottom of the drain pan (SOB !) , ,, what to do ? Contemplated just leaving it out until the next oil change which as I stated earlier I’m sure would be fine....

BUT being a totally anal type I decided to pull the drain plug and install the washer by the finger in the hole method also prescribed earlier. I did get it done with a minimal of oil lost but was difficult with a drip pan underneath (required) and required more than 1 attempt due to dropping the washer back into the drip pan 2 more times which required reinstalling the drain plug so I could fish through the oil in the pan to find the freakin crush washer.

Dowty washers are generally steel so a magnet could be used to fish it out of the oily drain pan when you drop it, ,, just sayin !

Ultimately I did get it back together correctly with the washer and did require about an additional 1/2 quart to top it back up, I understand the anal, not sleeping part of not having it there but honestly it’ll be fine w/o it! My .02
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It might never leak, but it would drive me nuts until the next oil change. I would remove the plug and install the washer.

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It'll most likely leak. I'd get everything lined up, drop the plug and stick my finger in the hole, put the crush washer on the plug with one hand, and then quickly pop the plug back in. Bet you lose less than 4 fl. oz. of oil. Of course check and top off after. And clean the oil off your arm.

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Oh and I'd get the crush washer in whereas I might not on a car because any potential leak is too close to being in the rear tire track. Buddy of mine crashed in his own oil once when the drain plug came out on a bike he had swapped for for a trial ride. Different in that the owner had just changed the oil and somehow neglected to tighten the drain plug but definitely an additional level of risk here compared to a 4-wheeler.

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OK, after going back and forth on this, it really is only 15 minutes out of my day. I can re-use the oil i collect in my clean oil pan, so no loss there.

I haven't started it yet as my front wheel and forks are off getting new seals.

I will pick up a washer since i proceeded to lose mine already.

Thanks for all the opinions and the information on the Dowty washer. I will have to look those up.

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If you are quick you can remove the plug and put your finger in the plug hole. Ask someone to fit the new crush washer and reinstall the bolt. You will lose very little oil, so just check the level - easy. I would not risk riding without it.
I can confirm this works from personal experience. I didn’t lose more than a couple of teaspoons of oil, and didn’t need a second set of hands — much easier and less messy than expected.
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Thanks, I will give it a try.

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