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post #51 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-16-2020, 06:51 PM
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Don't listen to the people with problems. Any bike, used or new can have issues. Those issues are their own. I only buy new because I don't trust what people do. Everyone is an expert as you can tell, so buy what you want. Any machine has its share of problems.
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post #52 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-16-2020, 08:10 PM
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I'm shocked to hear of all your troubles with your FJR. I'm on my second one (2013 & 2016). Stellar performance with a limitless fun-factor built for long distances while holding lots of gear! There is not a single other bike I would recommend more than the FJR. What troubles did you have?
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post #53 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-16-2020, 08:12 PM
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I bought a used 17 this year and it was a box of chocolates. Everytime I performed maintenance I found something wrong, from way under torque rear axle nut, cold spark plugs, missing grommets, loose triple tree nut, all sorts of tight and loose fasteners, and the real kicker was a missing rubber cap on the throttle body take off. A blithering idiot worked on this bike or a shop that didn't care.

My suggestion is if you get used go low miles such as 10k or less where not much work was needed. My 17 had 16,800 miles on it and I would not do that again.

I am in the market for a new 19 A model. I am not a fan of ES as my 09 had after market suspension. The ES is convenient and comfortable (read under sprung) is lacking the performance of the after market stuff I had. And you don't need to be a fast guy to appreciate after market suspension - just find a rough road and ride at a good clip. Going ES was a mistake for me and it is going to cost me dearly to return to what I had. Dumb move on my part, real dumb.
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post #54 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-16-2020, 10:15 PM
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I am torn between buying a used 2016 or a new 2020.
There does not seem to be any difference between them. Or is there?
I currently own two current gen FJR's (2013 and 2015, both are A, not ES models) and love both of 'em. My personal advice/opinion: If the used one is an A not ES model, I would buy that one as opposed to the new 2020 model as the 2020 model is ONLY available with ES. Personally, I don't need or want ES (in any of my bikes). I set my OEM suspension the way I want it (multiple, easy adjustment options) and ride the **** out of the bike over 100K + miles with no problems. Electronic suspension is just one more electronic gizmo waiting to fail down the road IMHO.... Thanks for considering my viewpoint and feel free to disregard/ignore as you please.. Thanks.
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This is the third FJR I got, and I had done some of the maintenance over a few years. I got busy and couldn't look at his hard to start when hot problem, so he took it to a dealer with a multiple award winning Certified Yamaha mechanic. Pics below are before (brought it home in a trailer) and after I got done cleaning it up a bit. I don't know what the heck all you guys are fussing about...... jeez.









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Really Ray? Trailering? I thought you were better than that.


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post #57 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-17-2020, 07:25 AM
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Ray, every time I see the “before pics” it just makes me cringe, it could have been worse as the great “certified” mechanic could have fixed it and let him ride off with something that could have failed on the way causing him to crash, nothing is beyond that guy !

The finished product is nice though, you did a great job ! I still like the rim strips, they really accent the gorgeous blue. Is your buddy still riding it ?

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My project thread contains all the details... not my decorating scheme, just cleaned up everything and put it back together. Intake valves were all carboned up, causing low compression. Idjit certified mechanic thought he'd tear the engine completely apart rather than diagnose the real issue. Shame, not possible to rebuild, so it got a 2014 engine with virtually no miles.... sold it to a friend.

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This is the third FJR I got, and I had done some of the maintenance over a few years. I got busy and couldn't look at his hard to start when hot problem, so he took it to a dealer with a multiple award winning Certified Yamaha mechanic. Pics below are before (brought it home in a trailer) and after I got done cleaning it up a bit. I don't know what the heck all you guys are fussing about...... jeez.








Bro, thats a SERIOUS project right there..haha
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post #60 of 82 (permalink) Old 07-17-2020, 01:26 PM
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I see some discussion here regarding the differences between A-models and ES-models. I'll share one of my experiences.

I walked into my garage a couple of months ago and found the FJR sitting in a puddle. Turns out the rear shock was leaking. I took it to the dealer and they quoted a price of $4300 to replace the shock, because "...Yamaha sells the whole thing as a unit". They thought the bike I brought in was the ES I had owned previously (same year, same color). When I explained that this was not the same bike, but was an A-model, the price dropped to less than $1000.

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