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Any vehicle can do well if you ride it for MPG instead of performance. I remember a BMW that got better MPG than a Prius when all the M3 had to do was tag along closely behind the Prius trying to go as fast as it could.
You know Top Gear is satire, right? Any car driven at and beyond the limits of its tires will get exceptionally poor MPG because it is not moving the car nearly as much as it is expending energy scrubbing its tires.

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I'm terrible at fuel efficiency. I could probably make a Prius get 15mpg.
And I always laugh about people buying bikes to save money. It never works out for me with the cost of tires/oil/upgrades/etc and how hard I ride (and I'm not even a particularly hard rider).
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I'm terrible at fuel efficiency. I could probably make a Prius get 15mpg.
And I always laugh about people buying bikes to save money. It never works out for me with the cost of tires/oil/upgrades/etc and how hard I ride (and I'm not even a particularly hard rider).
In 2002 I calculated Dunlop tires on my GL1800 cost 3X per mile as (4) OE Michelin tires (205/60-16 IIRC) on Toyota Avalon.

Today mounting and balancing myself (2) PR4GT on FJR cost half-again more per mile than (4) OE Michelin Primacy 245/45-19 on my Tesla.

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You know Top Gear is satire, right? Any car driven at and beyond the limits of its tires will get exceptionally poor MPG because it is not moving the car nearly as much as it is expending energy scrubbing its tires.

You HONESTLY think a Prius is capable of going fast enough to be concerned with that?

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You HONESTLY think a Prius is capable of going fast enough to be concerned with that?
Drove one for 7 years. Would do 100 MPH. Was much faster than my 1978 Dodge Challenger or even 1971 Dodge Charger. Doesn’t compare to my Tesla Model S, but few do.

NHW20 Prius was 2900 pounds on skinny 185/65-15 88 tires. Most in that size were load range 86. Unlike “heavy sport-tourer” lore mandating “GT” tires which have exactly same load rating as non-GT, the Prius really did require a heavy duty tire because it was using a smaller than typical tire for its mass.

Tesla is similar in wearing 245/45-19 in a heavy duty class to carry 4900 pounds empty. It too can slide easy, but not as easˇ as the Prius.

Prius would easily go faster than traffic but didn’t take much to slide sideways. And that was my point, that anything sliding sideways is getting much poorer MPG scrubbing the tires than anything with fat tires following behind. That is exactly what Top Gear did in their Prius MPG comparison. Just as their dead battery Tesla was faked (Tesla has telemetry to prove). As was James May flying a blimp over London.

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Oh I don't dispute their stunts. They even chuckle about the awards they've gotten for their "unscripted documentaries".


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ated-fake.html

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