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Broken seat mount, almost a disaster.

I have never put any lubrication on the front bearing of the relay arm {because of the difficulty of getting to that bolt} but I remembered wiggling the relay arm when I installed my Gen. 3 shock and it felt very loose and I was pretty sure the bearings were gone.

So I bought a good used Ebay relay arm and hung my 07 FJR up under my black iron stand.

I ran the ratcheting straps underneath the seat bracket that holds the seat lock release. {pictures below} just like Bryan showed in his Two Wheel Obsession videos.

Not that it's his fault. I should have known better. \

The thin aluminum metal broke off from the subframe and the only thing that saved my bacon was that I had just ratcheted it up and the center stand was still down, so it just dropped back on the center stand, instead of falling over or me being under it and the 650 lbs falling on my head. LOL

I sure as heck don't want to buy and install a whole new subframe, but I am not sure I can reinstall that piece and have it strong enough to hold up with my big fat butt sitting on it. Any ideas, other than slapping my own face for being so stupid. LOL

Oh yeah, when I finally got the dang relay arm out, all the bearings were good. I guess they still needed to be lubricated, but what a price to pay.
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Well, that sucks! That's going to need re-welding ideally, unless there is some method of bolting reinforcements to the underside. It is a structural member to keep the sub-frame in the proper relationship side to side. I'd go searching for a used subframe, might be cheaper in the long run, and better.

Sorry about your luck, don't beat yourself up too bad, but the questionable practices in those videos......... stop watching them! This could have been a much much worse an accident. You were darned lucky.


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Phil, i’m Sorry to hear of your troubles. Now if it were me,,,,,,, I would pull the subframe out and take it to a competent “tig” capable welder and have him not only weld the piece back in but also add some gusseting or reinforcements on the bottom side so it doesn’t interfere with the seat pads. Should be a fairly straight-forward repair, probably cost you a little bit but I think you’ll end up with a better/stronger piece that’s cheaper than a new $700 subframe,,,, that’s what i’d do.


Phil: after looking at Rays eBay deal above i’d Agree that it’s a real bargain, but ill add that I still would add some reinforcements at the seat brace and might as well add some at the infamous back tab while you have it out to keep it from flexing as well. This kind of thing fires me up and makes me want to kick someone at Yamaha in the azz for this flimsy subframe, but I am a bit predjudiced.
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I didnt like the way they were hanging those bikes looked very unstable. I came up with this solution It doesnt hurt to watch the videos but you have to decide what works and what doesn't and modify.
https://www.fjrowners.com/forums/8-f...ml#post1210687
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could you cut up a couple of l brackets for shelving and drill some holes, bolt em up "inside" as a macgiver? maybe a dumb idea and can't really tell if doable from just looking at pics. I will post a pic of a bracket I was thinking about, it is sitting on the seat
PS welding or replacing would be better I know but...
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Wow. Glad you’re alright.
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glad to hear that you didn't need to call 911 from under your bike that day.


When I first saw TWO use that black iron pipe clothes hanger rod I said to myself somebody is going to make one of those and wish they hadn't. Although truth be told I figured the hanger rod was going to be the point of failure and not the bike. And to be totally honest I can't say that I would have strapped to a different place on the bike BEFORE I read this thread. Thanks for alerting us!!

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What is a "relay arm"?

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