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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-04-2019, 12:24 PM Thread Starter
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FJR 1300 engine

Just curious -
Is the 1300 inline four in the FJR derived from another Yamaha or was it developed specifically for the FJR?

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Specifically for the FJR. There isn't another Yamaha engine like it AFAIK. I did a parts number comparison once and the basic engine cases/cylinder head etc. have not appreciably changed since 2003-2012. 2013 brought some minor changes for throttle by wire and cosmetic covers. 2016 brought case changes for the 6 speed. Pistons are same throughout. As always, look up the parts for your year/model, some are common, some are not.

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Ray, you mean that unlike the '16 clutch parts, I cannot just stuff a 6 speed gear cluster into my 2013 cases?

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Ray, you mean that unlike the '16 clutch parts, I cannot just stuff a 6 speed gear cluster into my 2013 cases?

Darn.
UM no. Slipper clutch yes, 6 speed no (5 speed is better anyway, LOL). And don't be dropping an entire '16 engine in anything older, you'd have to be an electrical engineer.... oh wait.....
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The was a major change to the engine block for the 14 model year onwards if I recall correctly. Went from liners to plated bores.

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They've been plated bores since 2002. I chuckled at that bit of marketing.....
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I thought it may have been based, however loosely, on the early r1.

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Actually i’ve Read that they are “loosely” based on the Fj1100/1200 motors even though they were air cooled and the fjr is water cooled. Parking my fjr next to my friends 05 FZ1 reveals a lot of very similar features as well. I really suspect that Yamaha has a basic architecture that they follow on the engines that they produce so you would find a lot of similarities throughout.

This probably makes it easier for them to make great engines that are reliable but also seems to make it hard for them to fix an issue like the 2nd gear failure that pops up from time to time. Some of it is probably more internet lore than reality though, kinda like synthetic oils will make your engine leak,,,,,, oh boy did I just really say that out loud ?����

The one thing that kind of surprises me is that they haven't made more bikes in the incredibly fastest color of the 14 red, probably a corporate liability lawyer thing, they’d probably prefer the “safer” root beer brown,,, that’s my guess.
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UM no. Slipper clutch yes, 6 speed no (5 speed is better anyway, LOL). And don't be dropping an entire '16 engine in anything older, you'd have to be an electrical engineer.... oh wait.....
I dunno' about that. I haven't yet poured over the 2016 wiring diagrams like I have the 2013 diagrams, but the only electrical change to the engine that I have seen is the gear position cable. Need to change that so you have a neutral light. And . . .

Err . . . , no. The gear position cable plugs into the main harness. That connector would need to be modified, and you would lose the sixth gear indicator. That's not a real problem: when the gear position indicator goes blank, you know you are in sixth gear. Or just change the instrument panel.

I really hadn't given it much thought, but I think it is seriously doable without too much trouble, at least to an earlier Series III.

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How about the headlight wiring differences between a 14 and 16? Just drop the LED housing in and plug it up?
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