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I put up a great long post agreeing with this, smacking my head on a wall for not seeing the error(!) of my earlier reasoning (HAH! As if!), and droning on about how to prove standing up does move the CG upwards. I deleted it. Anyway, the article's right on all counts. Maybe even that riding standing up may violate some law somewhere. Or not.

I used to think I probably knew what I was doing. Now I know I probably know what I'm doing. Which doesn't say I always knew what I was doing or always know what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?
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I went from my beloved Ď14 FJR to a newly beloved Ď18 K16GT. I sold the FJR to a cool cat from Jersey. He got a maintained, well equipped or farkeled FJR set up for eating miles at a decent price and I got a decent price for it. I had no issues with the FJR..except just a little buzzy in the handle bars...inherent in the inline 4ís. Bar ends helped. But reading forums give bikes bad reps too often. I have no issues (yet) with the K. Itís a dream to pilot. I was thinking about a Ď14 RT and I went with the FJR. That was a good decision. Wet head transition didnít go well. But when the K is too much mass for me to handle, in a decade or two, if I had to predict it...it would be an RT Iíd go to at that point. But itís impossible to predict what will be available by then. Most guys love flawed bikes...as no bike is perfect. Some are perfect for someone at that time and at that situation in life. But theyíre all flawed somewhere. So we pick our trade off. I can see where an RT would be an inviting mistress to an FJR lover. I can also see the reliability, performance and price point of an FJR luring the eyes and lust of someone whoís heart may lie elsewhere. Love the bike you ride, and ride the bike you love.
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1. I don't like flawed bikes. That's why my fling with HD didn't last long.
2. The cost of entry and ownership are just 2 reasons I've never been tempted by BMW. The number of riders who have had their long-planned and highly-costly IBR ended by a BMW failure during the rally are another.
3. If you were wanting a different bike and "settled" on the FJR then that means you probably wouldn't have been happy with the FJR anyway so moving on is a good thing. Good luck.

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But theyíre all flawed somewhere.
I'd be inclined to cut the engineers and manufacturers a little slack and amend that to something like "all bikes are compromises". Carbon and titanium bits reduce weight but cost more, larger engines have more torque and power but weigh/cost more and drink more fuel, etc...

It's up to us as individual consumers to figure out how we value the various characteristics of power, handling, comfort, price, etc to determine what we consider the optimal blend.

Our answer to this question changes over time. Two weeks ago I somewhat reluctantly concluded that the ergonomics of the R1200RT were sufficiently better (for me, YMMV) to justify trading in my FJR. I freely confess that riding the FJR for the last time up to the BMW dealer felt not unlike taking a beloved golden retriever to the pound. Fortunately the choice so far seems to have been a good one. I really am more comfortable on the RT.

So hail and farewell! I'll still occasionally lurk on this forum but will be spending more of my time on those for the RT.

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1. I don't like flawed bikes. That's why my fling with HD didn't last long.
2. The cost of entry and ownership are just 2 reasons I've never been tempted by BMW. The number of riders who have had their long-planned and highly-costly IBR ended by a BMW failure during the rally are another.
3. If you were wanting a different bike and "settled" on the FJR then that means you probably wouldn't have been happy with the FJR anyway so moving on is a good thing. Good luck.
Speaking of HD, the only thing they had going for them was the flag waving "patriots" and now Trump tells them they should boycott the brand. Hilarious.
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FJR will never be a BMW no matter how many "mods" we install or implement.
That is a great choice. I wish you all the best.
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2. The cost of entry and ownership are just 2 reasons I've never been tempted by BMW. The number of riders who have had their long-planned and highly-costly IBR ended by a BMW failure during the rally are another.
On the other hand near me on Craigslist there is what appears to be a clean 2000 K1200LT with 78,000 miles for $2750, and a 2003 R1200RT with 53,000 miles for $2,000.

Yes, those could be money pits. But it appears to me that BMW Snobs shun their own older bikes until they become antiques, and that creates an opening for open minded buyers to score good deals.

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My FJR didnít arrive as a sport touring bike. After I added the things necessary for distance touring, I had spent close to what an RT would have cost. And the RT was ready to go from the factory.

Reliability, warranty, and availability of service is why I chose, and still choose, Yamaha.
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You hit one of the biggest reason I am on my FJR and not a RT Bill. The BMW dealers up here are very few and far between.

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