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post #1 of 76 (permalink) Old 05-21-2020, 10:20 PM Thread Starter
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How Harley Davidson Killed Itself

Interesting history lesson in the economics and possible future demise of Harley Davidson. Here's hoping they survive as it's not nice to make fun of the dead.


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post #2 of 76 (permalink) Old 05-22-2020, 07:17 AM
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Old friend of mine once gave this saying: Harley Harley made of tin,ride them out and push them in. He wouldn't ride any other brand.
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I hope Harley never disappears, I hope to own one one day when I can have more time to take cross country trips etc.

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A friend of mine is a retired banker and a longtime HD rider. He watches the company financials closely and expects them to file bankruptcy soon. He says what everyone else is saying, that basically they've painted themselves into a corner with no way out.
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I hope Harley never disappears, I hope to own one one day when I can have more time to take cross country trips etc.
The FJR will go cross country AND make it back.
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In the 70"s I thought they were on their way out when they were bought by AMF, then came the tariff and a lot of baby boomers with money who bought into the style, just as Cagefree's retired banker did. Since the early 2000's I have been saying it can't last. There are selling to a group that are aging rapidly. Polaris is also in the same boat with the Indian however they are a bit more progressive with their engine designs, heck they even developed a water-cooled bike.

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heck they even developed a water-cooled bike.

Blasphemy!
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I have owned 3 in my lifetime. After my first long ride (around Lake Michigan), I sold it when I got home and bought a sport touring bike.

I buy motorcycles, not lifestyles. I have also worked as a supplier to HD and witnessed their engineering capabilities (or lack of). I am not saying they are bad or that I hope they fail. I doubt I will ever own one again because they are too expensive for what they are. I am rapidly approaching retirement and I plan to ride a lot. My current riding style does not lend itself to what they offer. My budget has no room for one either.

I wish them the best of luck.
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I have no ill-will for HD. Many good riding friends of mine over the years ride exclusively HD. I do think they have some beautiful bikes too. My favorite HD products were the V-Rod and most of the Buell offerings. HD refused to develop that wonderful, Porsche engineered Revolution engine and then cancelled it altogether and pulled the plug on Buell. I knew those were the wrong decisions, especially when they started the street fighter and adventure bike development which was at least 10 years too late. It seems that HD is purposefully making every wrong decision that they can.
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I am shocked and disappointed how an American can design a motorcycle which is so hard to maintain.

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