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I DON'T want to start a tire thread, but...

Since I'm unemployed for the time being, and since we discussed being a cheapskate on the other thread...

I've been noticing my beloved Michelin Pilot Road 5s have been really getting up there in price and I go through them pretty quickly, like everything. $240 rear and $168 front... and I just noticed that I can buy Bridgestone T31s for about $150 less for the pair.

I like the behavior of the PR5s... and I know everybody has a different opinion of what the BEST tire is... but does anybody HATE the Bridgestone T31s?
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I have not tried the T31's but they seem to get good reviews


Generally I am not fan of Bridgestones

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Well I DON'T want to be a jerk... but since I am so good at it, I may as well.

No such thing as a PILOT Road 5. They are Road 5s. No Pilot in there.

And since I have happily run every PILOT Road from the original, to the PR4GT, I hate the Road 5s. Worst tire of that series. I may try the GT version but I will try to find PR4s or PR4GTs instead.
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Since I'm unemployed for the time being, and since we discussed being a cheapskate on the other thread...

I've been noticing my beloved Michelin Pilot Road 5s have been really getting up there in price and I go through them pretty quickly, like everything. $240 rear and $168 front... and I just noticed that I can buy Bridgestone T31s for about $150 less for the pair.

I like the behavior of the PR5s... and I know everybody has a different opinion of what the BEST tire is... but does anybody HATE the Bridgestone T31s?
I like them (T31), and am surprised that the front will survive the rear one, and probably give me 3000 or 4000 more kilometers...
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Road 5 to me was a way for Michelin to raise the price of PR4's... haven't tried them but love the PR4's. That said, T31's are a good all around tire by all reports.... now for the shocker... a bike I bought came with a brand new set of Shinko Raven 009's... I love them as much as a PR4 and the price is right. Give one pair a shot and convince yourself you don't like them, if you can.

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So many I know loved the Shinko Raven 009 that I thought I'd try Shinko's flagship most expensive (are we not supposed to "get what we pay for"?) Verge 2x 016. Turned out to be the worst street tires I have ever ridden. Not bad if you don't mind rapid wear, change of direction with the smallest bump in turns, and if you don't mind having to force your motorcycle to turn.

I find a T30 Evo GT lasts about 75% as long as a Pilot Road 4 GT. Do the math. The greater your mounting and balancing costs the more likely the PR4GT will be the lower cost option.

IIRC previous set of PR4GT over 3 years ago the front wasn't a pleasant tire towards the end of its life. Started this year with a set of T31 GTs then rear punctured. Attempts to repair failed after a few weeks, else a new puncture appeared. After a solid hour with paintbrush and bowl of soapy water failing to find source of leak I replaced the tire with a new PR4GT.

Now here is the goofy thing: with maybe half worn front T31 GT and new PR4GT on rear I don't think I've ever been happier with the handling of my FJR in 62,000 miles.

A new PR4GT front is waiting on the demise of the T31.

Roadsmart 3's lasted longer than my T30 Evo GT (but less than PR4GT) and the front rode perfectly nice all the way to the end. While the Shinko 016 was hard steering the RS3 was maybe too easy. Some like that.

PR4 is now lower priced than R5. Not much but a little.

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Never tried the new Road 5s. I don't like spending $240 on a rear, though.

I am a fan of the T31. I had both the T31gt and the T31. I prefer the softer carcass of the T31. I would buy again. Unfortunately, the $60/set Bridgestone rebate just ended Apr 30 (unless it was extended; I haven't checked).

I also recently replaced the Pirelli Super Corsas on my Tuono 1100 RF with the Bridgestone S22.

Before trying the Bridgestone T31s on the FJR, I went through several sets of Dunlop Roadsmart II before they changed they apparently changed the formula and made it more of a budget tire. I liked the original Dunlops.

I previously ran a set of Pilot Road 4 GT I bought in Grand Junction Colorado when I burned up a rear on a trip. It was smooth, but, again, I didn't like the stiffness of the GT. Also, the rear disappointed me in terms of life expectancy; did poorer than either the T31 or RS2. I wanted to like it, but I hypothesized more flex on the sidewall might have spared the tread a while longer.

I now now another brand new PR4GT on a new-to-me bike I just acquired. I'm enjoying the stiffness more than I did previously, but I'm still not sure I love the tire. It does feel "solid."

But, anyway, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the T31 or the T31 GT. I'd probably get the T31. With the rebate they were like $240 a set from RMATV. To me that's a no-brainer over the Road 5s or the PR4. Even if they are "slightly" poorer, they definitely aren't $160 poorer.

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I think Bridgestone is still having a $60 rebate, anyway last month I ordered a set of the T31's after rebate $188 for the set. They are sitting in my garage until I wear out the PR4's not the GT version.


I have a riding buddy who runs T31GT only on his Concours 14 and he swears by them, me I ran a few sets on my C14 and had no problem with them. I just like to try different tires since I mount and balance my own.

At the Concours national rally last year we had a spokesperson from Michelin told us the Road 5 tires were not made for the C14 as it was too heavy and to wait for the Road5 GT to come out.
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I'll agree the Shinko Verge is not a good choice.....
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Someone once told me that, when someone is agreeing with you then says (some version of) "but", ignore everything said before that. The only take-away from what they are saying is what follows that "but".


It's like Dad telling me, "Never say 'only' and 'money' in the same sentence for there be salesmen in them waters."

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