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Sena Bluetooth phone conversation?

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I'm looking at BlueTooth on the bike for music, directions, and -- potentially phone calls. Any experiences? I'm looking at either the 20S or 30K. Thoughts?

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I have a hm-10r on one helmet and a Evo 20S on another and they both work perfectly. I don't integrate my GPS as I don't see the need for it. I can make and receive phone calls, talk to my riding buddies and listen to music. The 20S has a bit of a learning curve but once you get used to it, it works well. When I'm talking on phone, people can't believe I'm on the bike.
Speaker placement is critical to the audio level. Place the speakers as close to your ears as possible. You may have to move them around a bit to find the sweet spot. The speakers are tuned to be used with ear plugs. They will sound very tinny if you don't wear plugs.
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Sena works great, people can never tell that i'm riding. Even with my significant hearing loss, I can typically hear conversations just fine and will even turn down the volume every now and then while listening to music. Still rocking the old smh10 so I can't speak for the the 20 and 30 models.
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Sena 20S here, great device, like farmer_frank said, when answering phone calls people usually tell me how clear they can hear me. Everything work seamlessly, FM radio, mp3 from my phone, phone calls, talking to other riders in a group,... 2 yrs later no complains.
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Another option is Cardo. I got their packtalk, and so far like it, but not too much long term experience yet.
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I had buggy 20S then foolishly “upgraded” to the even buggier 30K. Both were tinny sounding for music but did well for telephone. Lots of problems with intercom audio. Snare drum sound effects. Often connection was “Donald Duck” for which the only solution was power off reboot.

Got the impression Sena hired consultants to design the product. Then micromanaged assignments to lowest bidder. Finally code rot resulted in the horrible 30K. Remember they were supposed to release a noise canceling helmet, too. Underwhelming and a year or two late to market. As I say, I get the impression, I don’t really know they gutted their engineering and started anew with firmware 2.0 for the 30K. When my (2) 30Ks behaved totally different from each other even with 2.0 and “factory reset” I gave up and bought Cardos.

Packtalk Bold has been much more reliable and orders of magnitude better sound, and that was before the JBL version.
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20S since the day it came out, Sena has free software updates and mine has never given any issues, even in bellywasher downpours. I think most have pleasant experiences, some have disasters, as with any product. My other helmet had a smh10 and that worked great. I have no issues with Sena, and like the control options settings that the software has when connected to the computer.
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I'm looking at BlueTooth on the bike for music, directions, and -- potentially phone calls. Any experiences? I'm looking at either the 20S or 30K. Thoughts?
Helmet can make a difference with phone calls. In a Shoei RF1200 you couldn't tell I was on the bike except for the padding pushing in my cheeks changed my voice. Tested good up to 100mph. Nolan N104 Evo? Starts having trouble at 50mph. Might be the different microphones. Shoei used the flat disk microphone glued onto the front. The Nolan is a flip up, so used the boom microphone.
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Im still using an old Sena SMH5 and have transferred it several times between helmets using both stick on mic and boom with same result. Perfect operation.
Only problem i ever had was the sun making the units body very sticky - Sena sent me a new one !!

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