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Dilemma about riding now

I am a daily rider and I know many of you are as well. On another forum a fellow posted up the message below:


I apologize for being momentarily serious, but this thread has raised questions of whether riding a motorcycle for pleasure is an OK thing to do in the current circumstances. It isn't.

And not because riding a motorcycle is likely to infect you.

The reason the authorities don't want bicycles, cars, motorcycles, people anything much moving around is that, on the evidence of the way coronavirus spreads, almost all the countries from which this forum draws its members are already past the point where their health systems will be able to cope with all the coronavirus patients needing intensive care. Maybe putting that the other way will be clearer: there will be way more COVID19 patients needing intensive care that our hospitals can treat. And that assumes they don't have to deal with anything else like road accident trauma, cardiac disease, strokes, diabetic and asthma attacks, etc, etc. That's why many countries are working hard to 'flatten the curve'. It probably won't reduce the number of infections; but it will mean they're more spread out which will give hospitals and the medical system a better chance of being able to respond and reduce the number of horrendous choices health professionals will have to make.

So, just at the moment, it's not alright to do anything that puts you at risk of injury unless you absolutely have to, for the simple reason that if you do get hurt, you'll be putting further pressure on a health system that is, or is about to be, overwhelmed.


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Well, you guys certainly have given me something to think about. I will discuss this with my wife for her opinion. The likelihood of me being in an accident on my motorcycle is extremely small IMO, I am a very experienced rider, with lots of training, riding in areas I am intimately familiar, with far less other vehicles on the road than normal. But there is always a chance I suppose. After all, that's why we don the gear.

The way I have looked at it is I am out there by myself, a threat to no one, can't catch the disease while riding, can't spread the disease while riding. I go from my garage, spend an hour in a protective suit with no contact with anyone else and return to my garage. If I thought I was going to crash I wouldn't go out at all. The government, federal as well as my state government says it's ok to go out in limited circumstances. It's ok to walk, or jog, walk your pet, or ride a bike or go to a park as long as you stay 6' from others. How do you get to a park if you don't drive? How do you get to the grocery or pharmacy if you don't drive? As it is, there are so many people walking all day in my neighborhood, it would be virtually impossible for me to go for a walk and not run into other people. IMO it is safer for me to ride my motorcycle than to walk in my own neighborhood, and certainly far safer than when I went to the grocery store yesterday morning with many hundreds of strangers.


WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? Should those us us who are daily riders still ride? Or is it too risky due to the lack of medical supplies and beds needed for Corona patients? I'm sort of struggling with this now. I want to ride, but I don't want to take a hospital bed that someone else may need in case I do go down.
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This is something I have been struggling with as well. Have decided not to ride for now.
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I respect and support individual opinions and choices. I am usually a solitary rider and am well versed in BBP and infection control. I hate having to disinfect a pump and zon before and after pumping, but it’s part of life right now. My riding will not be curtailed by current conditions as long as pay-at-the-pump remains available.

I can fully understand why some should choose not to ride during this difficult time.

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If I lived in fear like that, I definitely wouldn't own my toys.
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What adds to the reduced likelihood of crashing my bike and potentially hurting myself is the fact that there are a lot less vehicles on the roads during this ordeal.

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It's not about crashing and causing undo stress for the medical system but about seeing yourself as part of a society.
If everyone decided they can do what they want when they want without regards to the outcome or ramification then we would have a huge amount of folks on the road. So everyone needs to comply except for you?
Everyone needs to do their part. Come on, stay off your bike. This is not the time to be a rugged individualist.
What part of non essential travel do you not understand?
They had to close all the parks throughout the Bay area because dipshits didn't understand this.
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I'm a daily commuter rider. And the Washing Governor just slapped us with a shelter in place order. Can only go out for essentials.

But you can still ride your motorcycle to the grocery store for essentials -- 50 miles away!!!!!

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Well we are getting mixed signals from our state government. They say certain outdoor activities are ok, walking, jogging, bicycle riding, dog walking, going to the park, and encourage you to do those things for physical and mental health, as long as you maintain social distancing. It is spelled out right in the Governors Stay at Home order.


Does the Stay at Home order mean I can't take my kids to the park?
Families will still be able to go outside, including to parks and outdoor spaces that remain open, and take a walk, run, or bike ride but should continue to practice social distancing by remaining 6 feet away from other people. Playgrounds are closed because they pose a high risk of increasing transmission.


Is there a difference between jumping in your car and going to the park, and jumping on your motorcycle and going to the park?

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Very interesting to hear what is going on over the pond.

I'm an expat Brit (limey) living in Brittany in the north west of France, that's the lump of rock that sticks out into the Atlantic at the top left hand corner!

We have an almost total lockdown in France. We are not allowed to leave our homes or property except for employment, medical needs, food, fuel and exercise(walking the dog etc within 500 metres of your house). When we decide to go out we have to have in our possession a signed and dated government form detailing who when where and why we are out. Each of us, my wife and I, a new form every time we go out.

Infringement means a 135 fine. further infringements and the fines can go up to 15,000 plus 6 months prison. Checkpoints on the roads manned by the gendarmes, they are a sort of military police in the country districts where we are, national and municipal police doing the same in the big towns and cities.
All non-essential businesses are closed, bars, cafes, restaurants, all shops and stores except banks, pharmacies, food markets, fuel stations, medical etc.

These restrictions are likely to continue for at least 3 months.
We are lucky that we have a little patch of land, about an acre and a half, including some woodland so we are not hemmed in too much, with no close neighbours - it's fortunate that we don't live in an apartment!

So no riding for me until this is over!
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Very interesting to hear what is going on over the pond.

I'm an expat Brit (limey) living in Brittany in the north west of France, that's the lump of rock that sticks out into the Atlantic at the top left hand corner!

We have an almost total lockdown in France. We are not allowed to leave our homes or property except for employment, medical needs, food, fuel and exercise(walking the dog etc within 500 metres of your house). When we decide to go out we have to have in our possession a signed and dated government form detailing who when where and why we are out. Each of us, my wife and I, a new form every time we go out.

Infringement means a 135 fine. further infringements and the fines can go up to 15,000 plus 6 months prison. Checkpoints on the roads manned by the gendarmes, they are a sort of military police in the country districts where we are, national and municipal police doing the same in the big towns and cities.
All non-essential businesses are closed, bars, cafes, restaurants, all shops and stores except banks, pharmacies, food markets, fuel stations, medical etc.

These restrictions are likely to continue for at least 3 months.
We are lucky that we have a little patch of land, about an acre and a half, including some woodland so we are not hemmed in too much, with no close neighbours - it's fortunate that we don't live in an apartment!

So no riding for me until this is over!
Barnstormer..how do you and your wife get the new signed and dated government form everytime you go out without travelling someplace?
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