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Blue book isnít lowball. Blue book is average. Time of the year and economic cycles will always play a part as well.
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Youíre only supposed to go 80mph in 5th gear? Hmmm....I must be doing something wrong because thatís about when I shift in 4th. Just saying....
interesting, if I'm doing 80 it means I'm on the freeway, in which case I'm in 6th lol
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interesting, if I'm doing 80 it means I'm on the freeway, in which case I'm in 6th lol
Funny, but I've ridden many, many miles on Arkansas two-lanes at well above 80, even into the triple digits, just on the straights before braking for the next corner. Of course, then, we were running near peak torque in whatever gear we happened to be in.

Of course, I've gotten older and wiser. OK, older anyway.
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Funny, but I've ridden many, many miles on Arkansas two-lanes at well above 80, even into the triple digits, just on the straights before braking for the next corner. Of course, then, we were running near peak torque in whatever gear we happened to be in.

Of course, I've gotten older and wiser. OK, older anyway.
Yea, I understand people do ride like that, it's just that I'm not one of them anymore (...maybe 30 years ago ) Not sure I'm any wiser, but I'm certainly more cautious these days.
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Any dealer who won't discount a bike at all is nuts. If you want the bike, offer $2,000 under MSRP and no bullshit fees. Then walk it they don't go to at least $1,500 off. The bike does not sell very well, and the industry in general has not been good since the 2008 recession.
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Any dealer who won't discount a bike at all is nuts. If you want the bike, offer $2,000 under MSRP and no bullshit fees. Then walk it they don't go to at least $1,500 off. The bike does not sell very well, and the industry in general has not been good since the 2008 recession.
You would never own a bike in NC. Dealers would rather it sit in the showroom than (you'll have to pardon my straightforwardness) deal with a dick. They know eventually it will sell and they'll make some profit rather than have to deal with a repeat high maintenance problem-person.
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Any dealer who won't discount a bike at all is nuts. If you want the bike, offer $2,000 under MSRP and no bullshit fees. Then walk it they don't go to at least $1,500 off. The bike does not sell very well, and the industry in general has not been good since the 2008 recession.
Jim I agree,... do your research, when ready pick a dealer and make an offer, try not to insult the sales guy and low-ball, but an offer of 10-15% of the MSRP is reasonable, and when negotiating put a couple of grand of cash [ all small bills ] on his desk to show you are here to buy a bike ... In this world of "credit cards and virtual funds" a pile of green bills always excites people more then just words.

In these tough economic times every dealer will think twice, since "smaller profit" is always better then "no profit" at all.
Here is an example of what I negotiated on '17ES new in the crate, I was very happy, and he didn't complain either. **GST = Goods and Services Tax we pay on everything you buy except food.
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You would never own a bike in NC. Dealers would rather it sit in the showroom than (you'll have to pardon my straightforwardness) deal with a dick. They know eventually it will sell and they'll make some profit rather than have to deal with a repeat high maintenance problem-person.
I'm not sure I understand your "problem person" comment. Dealers love me because I'm incredibly loyal, I give them as much service and parts business as I can and I don't negotiate for the absolute best price. If dealing on a new vehicle offends them they have bigger problems than me. I'm not a "dick" when I deal with people. It's never personal or threatening. I don't make the rules, I just play by them.
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You would never own a bike in NC. Dealers would rather it sit in the showroom than (you'll have to pardon my straightforwardness) deal with a dick. They know eventually it will sell and they'll make some profit rather than have to deal with a repeat high maintenance problem-person.
Dear Russ, when are you going to learn to say what you really feel instead of beating around the bush. LOL
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