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Yes, the clip-ons I leave permanently, put the tire on and use stick-ons to balance it.
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Yes, the clip-ons I leave permanently, put the tire on and use stick-ons to balance it.
I've also been doing this but read elsewhere that it provides no benefit. I'll keep doing it because I would guess it doesn't hurt anything and I can't believe Ray would ever steer me wrong.
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The big benefit is not to be hunting around getting all the weights in the right places..... which sometimes happens when you have to put on a whole bunch. I like it when I'm down to one or two weights, far easier!
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I've also been doing this but read elsewhere that it provides no benefit. I'll keep doing it because I would guess it doesn't hurt anything and I can't believe Ray would ever steer me wrong.
I think its 6 of one, half dozen of another. If the wheel is badly off balance then it will keep you from having to use new weights to correct the same thing over and over again. But if the tire is out of balance then perhaps it is out exactly opposite of your wheel, canceling each other out?

Would be good to know where the heavy side of the wheel really is. Then if you find need to add weights near there it might be best to pop the bead and spin the tire 180 and try balance again.

Was needing 2 oz on a GL1100 rear wheel when the owner noticed it was mounted the wrong rotation (Honest, that is the only time I've done that! Forgot GL1100 has drive on right.). Took it off and mounted the right way but also made sure it was about 180 and flipped over. Only needed two 7g weights that time.

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My goal is simply the minimum rotational weight with good balance, so that is why I was interested in the tire markings. If I accept that most of the unbalanced weight is in the tire carcass and not the tread that wears away, it would seem balance should be stable through tire life with either technique. I am interested in long-term tire wear as well. I should also have checked balance before I removed the tire. How can I remember all this next time?

Rear wheel is coming up soon, I think. Like aging, this seems non-linear...

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My goal is simply the minimum rotational weight with good balance, so that is why I was interested in the tire markings. If I accept that most of the unbalanced weight is in the tire carcass and not the tread that wears away, it would seem balance should be stable through tire life with either technique. I am interested in long-term tire wear as well. I should also have checked balance before I removed the tire. How can I remember all this next time?

Rear wheel is coming up soon, I think. Like aging, this seems non-linear...
****, the last tire I mounted a rear on the Beta 500 i got so giddy installing the Nuetech Tubliss without screwing anything up, I forgot to balance the **** thing at all before bolting it on the bike. It was still better than new since BETA hadn't balanced the original tires and it had rim locks to throw it out of balance. Worse than the vibrating bed down at the cheap corner hotel.

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****, the last tire I mounted a rear on the Beta 500 i got so giddy installing the Nuetech Tubliss without screwing anything up, I forgot to balance the **** thing at all before bolting it on the bike. It was still better than new since BETA hadn't balanced the original tires and it had rim locks to throw it out of balance. Worse than the vibrating bed down at the cheap corner hotel.
The 90% solution would be to add an ounce or two directly opposite the Tubliss low pressure valve stem which doubles as a rim lock.

In ancient times I put my CX500 on centerstand in 5th gear and spun the rear wheel with the engine. Noted the vibration. Stopped and affixed a weight. Tried again. If worse I moved the weight. If better I moved the weight also to see if I could make it even better.

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There is a mode around 117; it doesn't come back. Now I can put the weight on and feel the effect.

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The 90% solution would be to add an ounce or two directly opposite the Tubliss low pressure valve stem which doubles as a rim lock.

In ancient times I put my CX500 on centerstand in 5th gear and spun the rear wheel with the engine. Noted the vibration. Stopped and affixed a weight. Tried again. If worse I moved the weight. If better I moved the weight also to see if I could make it even better.
I'll fix it today. I have the bike up on the lift and just received my forks and shock back from Beta Factory Suspension where I had it resprung and what ever other revalve magic they do. The front tire is still original and I'll balance it for the rim lock. The rear is where I installed the new tire and Tubliss system forgetting to balance it. Of course you can get by with the rear being pretty unbalanced compared to the front where an unbalance wheel makes itself more obvious.

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