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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-07-2019, 11:58 PM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-08-2019, 05:04 PM
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The Versys has come a long way from that little awkward 650 that didn't really fit into any bike category. I'd opt for the new Versys over the C14 at this point. If it were shaft drive, it might sway me from the FJR.
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The Versys has come a long way from that little awkward 650 that didn't really fit into any bike category. I'd opt for the new Versys over the C14 at this point. If it were shaft drive, it might sway me from the FJR.
I agree, I sold my '14 Connie last year, always wondering why is Connie shaft system not used on other bikes, like Versys, with shaft and cruise it would be a better ADV contender, same thing with Suzuki Vstroms bring in more shaft to all bikes, I think even belt is better then messy chains.
Yamaha's Super Tenere is great choice but cost more then the FJR
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I think ADV bikes should stay chain drive just for the ease of trail side maintenance and to have the ability to change gearing. I interchange my sprockets on my dirt bike prior to a race depending on what style trails the course is laid out on. I agree though, any bike that is not being raced, either offroad or track, should be shaft drive. I still don't know why Kawasaki hasn't updated the C14 with a new dash and cruise. The engine and look is still great, just update the decade old technology!
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I think ADV bikes should stay chain drive just for the ease of trail side maintenance and to have the ability to change gearing. I interchange my sprockets on my dirt bike prior to a race depending on what style trails the course is laid out on. I agree though, any bike that is not being raced, either offroad or track, should be shaft drive. I still don't know why Kawasaki hasn't updated the C14 with a new dash and cruise. The engine and look is still great, just update the decade old technology!
You probably talk from experience about the chains, I don't have any experience with dirt or ADV, but thinking of getting my feet wet with some light ADV. Most of my bikes were shaft so I am spoiled I guess, and also going with what I see in the ADV leaders like GS, Super Tenere, Triumph Tigers, Honda VFR-ADV etc all shaft, wonder why didn't they keep chains on those?

I agree about the C14 it's overdue for some change, I guess they need throttle-by-wire before they can give Cruise, so one thing leads into another. And to be honest the bike is a real bargain (see picture taken 19.Dec at the dealer in Calgary), and Kawi is probably not making any money on it, so we should be happy that C14 and FJR's are still available. I.E. my next door neighbour bought a mountain bike CAD $7500 so to put it in perspective I got my '17 new FJR really at the bargain price, (almost feeling guilty I didn't pay enough )
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"ADV leaders like GS, Super Tenere, Triumph Tigers, Honda VFR-ADV etc all shaft, wonder why didn't they keep chains on those?"

Those bikes are all intended for light offroading like fire and logging roads. They see 90% street and 10% dirt so they are manufactured for more touring than adventuring. They typically won't get into true trail riding and the advantages of a chain are never needed. You'll notice that the lighter more dirt oriented ADV bikes like the GS700-850cc series, Africa Twin, Tenere 700, and all KTMs are chain because you can hit single track trails on those bikes. They are all essentially big dirt bikes that can handle street touring, while the big ADV bikes are street bikes that can handle some offroading.

In the end, I love that my FJR is shaft and that my dirt bike is chain because each fulfill their purpose very well!
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The manufacturer's have never really made too many shaft drives on engine displacements of smaller than a litre, and chains transfer more of the horsepower to the rear wheel. Mind you, my sister's old Honda Shadow 750 had the optional shaft drive and it was fairly compact/not that heavy.
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