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post #1 of 85 (permalink) Old 01-03-2014, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
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Building a faster FJR

Hello all - I'm fairly new to this forum and bought my first FJR May 2013. Its an 03, silver, two-bros pipes and larger aftermarket windscreen with 27K miles, for $4300. I'm a "moderately experienced" rider, owning a variety of bikes, and riding regularly 8-9 years over the last 30 years and raced AMA middleweight superbike for 3 years (92-94) on a Yamaha FZ 600, yes, pre-genesis 600, and running 2:20s at Daytona ROC.

Anyways, it took me about 1000+ miles to get used to the FJRs length, weight, shaft-drive, handling, braking, etc...I ride primarily as a commuter, 70 miles RT to work each day on a fast four-lane stretch in southern New Mexico. After 3000+ miles, I really love this bike. The power, stability, comfort and handling is amazing. At 70-80mph this bike is the most smooth, stable bike I've ever ridden. I've made a few speed runs up to 145-155mph, and over 130 felt a slight side-to-side, slow wobble, which I suspect is a result of the hard packs. During my "winter break" I will put on a new set of Pilot 3s, throttlemeister and bar risers.

Two questions I have are: Has anyone installed a programmer on their FJR, and if so what kind, and what was your experience using it? Has anyone installed a nitrous oxide system on an FJR or other sport touring bike, and what is your experience in doing so? I'm not planning on doing this anytime soon, just curious to see if anyone has any first-hand experience with either or a combination of both. Although, an FJR with 200 rear-wheel hp might be interesting!
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Pretty much the wrong venue for such. Most are getting it for distance not sprinting.

Better to get a lighter bike for playing silly things with. The 650 lb bike is a handicap starting off if you want to do NO2 and other quarter miler stuff.

The trick is thinking about where its strong points are. Try taking a NO2-enhanced 600cc bike on a 1000 mile day ride. Then you start to see where the FJR strengths lie. Modding the FjR with things that can't be properly deployed on public roads seems to be throwing money into a black hole.
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Yeah. Sounds a little like putting an alcohol-burning, double-blower engine in a Volvo wagon.

IMO, NOS would compromise the bikes reliability and be a nuisance. Fuel injection modules like the Dynojet Powercommander can enhance the bike's mapping for throttle response and various exhaust configurations, but they don't give the bike more horsepower.

Have you considered a Suzuki Hyabusa?
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Might try looking at the 1200S or 1200 Bandits... Sounds like you're wanting a drag bike with sport touring ergos and those pretty much fit the bill. I had a 2002 1200S that had a big bore kit, was ported and polished, with carb, exhaust, and airbox mods. It was a fire breathing dragon. Check out the maximum suzuki forum for further.
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Pretty much the wrong venue for such. Most are getting it for distance not sprinting.

Better to get a lighter bike for playing silly things with. The 650 lb bike is a handicap starting off if you want to do NO2 and other quarter miler stuff.

The trick is thinking about where its strong points are. Try taking a NO2-enhanced 600cc bike on a 1000 mile day ride. Then you start to see where the FJR strengths lie. Modding the FjR with things that can't be properly deployed on public roads seems to be throwing money into a black hole.
bounce - Hmmm, I thought this was under "Sport & Racing" in the FJR forum...silly me. I see the strength of the FJR as a very stable platform, with better than average performance, that's why I bought it. As I said, I was simply curious about anyone's experience with either.

Liquidsilver - That's kinda what I figured on the programmers, just moves the power around. The Hayabusa has impressive specs out of the box, but I would buy an R-1 if going that direction.

Glock - I have always liked the big, stripped down look of the bandits and other similar bikes. Suzuki seems to be the go-to bikes for big, raw power. I'll check out the forum, thx.
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Oh and forgot to mention, I stopped in to say howdy on the maxzuk forum the other day and there's a legendary turbo bandit on there for sale. It's been owned by a few different members but it's been taken care of very well.
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Wow, sometimes I really don't get the mind frame of today's bike owners. Sometimes, some stuff just comes across as kind of prissy to me. The sport definitely isn't what it used to be.

Most of the guys that I have ever known would think it was worth it to work up ANY bike to try to increase it's performance.

****, the iconic "muscle bike," the mighty Vmax, came about because someone at Yamaha took an 83' Venture Royal touring bike engine and decided to see what they could do to turn it into a beast.

I really don't think that, or understand how, anyone that used to ride in the 80's and through part of 90's would think that sporting up a FJR would be an unreasonable idea.

NMrider, I personally love your question, as well as your old school way of thinking. To me it's kind of refreshing to read, instead of the usual stuff like people complaining about their problem of buffeting when they have their windshield in full upright position.

I mean seriously, with the FJR1300, you are starting with a beast of an engine and a bike that if you throw on a 4 into 1 and take off the saddlebags, will probably be close to the dry weight range of some older FZR1000's.

Want to drop another 24 pounds off of the bikes total weight? Only fill up the monstrous 6.6 gallon fuel tank with 3 gallons of gas.

Besides, if you're going to throw NOS on a bike, it's best to have a longer wheel base and a bit of weight behind the bike.


NMRider, your question makes total sense to me... But then again, I still have a girthy '93 GSX1100G sitting in my garage with a set of racing Mikuni RS36 smoothbores on her.
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Okay, but in my opinion, R1s and Hayabusas are nothing like the same thing at all. If I build a hot rod bike, I wouldn't start with an FJR.

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Thanks Amski - I'm 46 going on 47 soon and grew up replacing V-6s for V-8s and small blocks for big blocks in the late 70s early 80s. I teach high school auto tech and regularly have kids that want to put the big block in a Pinto thing, or build the 650hp Honda civic tuner car. Of course the question is "why", and the answer is "cause we can/could"? Usually the $$$ is the limiting factor, then time, then desire/interest. We are currently doing a frame up restoration on a 78 Chevy short box 4x4 and building a frame up rat rod with 41 Ford pick-up cab. We have a well equipped shop, 3 lifts, a full welding shop (mig,tig, stick, plasma cutter) with fab equipment, and a decent budget, so we can build and modify a lot of cool stuff. Every bad ass vehicle started with an idea or crazy notion, then usually lots of time and money followed. Hence the question that started this thread. Will I do it, maybe, maybe-not; but anything is possible. A $3000 race rebuild, custom exhaust, programmer and 50-100hp shot of NO2 would produce a 250hp non-turbo FJR...Why? Cause I can if I want to.

BTW - Nice bike, the first big street bike I ever rode on was an 83' GS1100.

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Yep. That was my point. There can be a lot of cash wasted getting a 650+ lb bike just to the point where another bike would be starting out at. If you start out with a more appropriate platform you can hit your target easier and with less cash.

You can put nobbies on an FJR but that won't make it a good dirt bike either.

No one's saying don't do what you want. Many people will oo and ah if you succeed. Just don't expect a lot of info floating around in the ether for a niche project. If you decide to break new ground, post up (with photos).

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