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post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 02:10 PM
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Glad he went to the ER Vs im ok and did nothing.
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Dang, guy was lucky for being so unlucky.

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glad to hear he's going to be OK. A good friend will take some soap and sponge down when they recover the bike and actually clean it up for him. After all, it's been in the soak cycle for a while, might as well finish cleaning it up for him.

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Glad he went to the ER. Concussions and internal injuries are no joke.

Good on you for looking after him.
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I sincerely hope your friend is okay and that he heals well. It's never a bad idea to "go get checked out" after a crash, no matter how small.


That said...


My experience with my BMW has often made me consider throwing it off a bridge. I would have done it already except I don't want to be cited for littering.
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With skid marks it’s obvious that the abs did not work, bmw had issues for years with their system when they tried the “power assist” system that had all kinds of issues.

I’ve had 2 friends crash due to that system and the one was severe enough that my one friend spent months in the hospital after his bmw had a sensor failure and complete lack of braking that caused him to hit a car. BMW felt so bad about it that they gave him more than enough money to buy a new fully loaded K1200Rt. I think his lawyers may have played a role but bmw never admitted any fault just like their final drive problems that NEVER fail.

N4, glad your friend will be ok, might be in his best interest to talk to his lawyer since it’s obvious that the abs did not work. My .02

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Bob is home with 4 broken ribs, chipped elbow, and plenty of painkillers. Looking at his helmet there was no evidence of impact. He was ATGATT.

We believe the insurance company has already totaled the 1993 BMW for having dropped a hot engine under water. By the time we got it out the electrical system was haywire.
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I would think that the ABS from a 1993 motorcycle might have a little trouble dealing with gravel. I am pretty certain it was mentioned he went down in the gravel and if that is the case I don't know if we can blame even a modern ABS.


I like how @N4HHE slipped it in there that it was a 1993 BMW. We can all step back and not blame the motorcycle.


The important thing is that our friend's friend is okay.



Edit: That really looks more like a 2003 to me but I cannot be sure.

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Edit: That really looks more like a 2003 to me but I cannot be sure.
Does this help?

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Redfish, it has a telelever front end and I do believe that it has the Bosch power assist brake system that was quite advanced for its time and should have dealt with the gravel just fine. The whole point of abs is to keep from locking the wheels which it did not do by the fact it left skid marks. All that said i’ll Add that it has the Bosch power assist brake system that bmw was very proud of but was really a s**t system because the sensors commonly failed or did not work correctly,,,,, but in the end we were not there, just glad n4’s friend will be ok, but the abs malfunction and it was a malfunction should be looked into. my .02

I will add that I and my neighbor had a very similar experience about a month ago where we were riding along a road in our area ( Chicago Trail) that we’ve both ridden hundreds of times but not for a while, just cruising along at around 60-65mph when we came around a blind curve and me leading and see a sign that says bump and then realize the nice smooth pavement is gone and the “bump” is where it drops off the pavement into gravel, hard on the excellent fjr brakes to scrub as much speed as possible and then let off both the brakes and gas as we get into the gravel to just coast down to a safe speed for the next 8-10 Miles. My neighbor and I were just lucky on this I guess but n4’s friends accident stirred up the butt pucker moment from before, I am thankful.
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