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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-04-2020, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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Afternoon everyone,

Had my 2013 on the front axle stand in the garage and noticed some freeplay in the axle assembly that I never noticed before. If I grab the bottom or back of the wheel I can get it to rock on the axle. The play is very minimal but I'm not sure how much is allowed. The bearings feel smooth and the last time I had the wheel off I re-assembled everything following the FSM and retorqued everything to factory spec. The axle seems to slide too easy through the inner bearing races and it seems the spacers are also slightly too large. I think this is the freeplay I am feeling. How snug should the axle be in the bearing/spacer? Does anyone have a spec for the axle diameter or spacer internal diameter? This feels like grasping at straws but everything "looks" ok otherwise.

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You should not be able to rock the wheel on the axle. Pull the wheel and insert the axle to see if you can determine where the play is.

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Afternoon everyone,

Had my 2013 on the front axle stand in the garage and noticed some freeplay in the axle assembly that I never noticed before. If I grab the bottom or back of the wheel I can get it to rock on the axle. The play is very minimal but I'm not sure how much is allowed. The bearings feel smooth and the last time I had the wheel off I re-assembled everything following the FSM and retorqued everything to factory spec. The axle seems to slide too easy through the inner bearing races and it seems the spacers are also slightly too large. I think this is the freeplay I am feeling. How snug should the axle be in the bearing/spacer? Does anyone have a spec for the axle diameter or spacer internal diameter? This feels like grasping at straws but everything "looks" ok otherwise. Thanks in advance.
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Brad,

Check this parts fiche, and check that everything needed is installed for your wheel. I believe that if you can feel any play at the axle, then something important has been left out of the assembly. I would not recommend riding the bike until you get everything sorted out.

http://www.adeptpowersports.com/oem-...-assembly.html
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I'm with Red........ axle dia. is a few thousandths less than 22mm, which is the ID of the the bearings, which should be more or less a slide fit with no play. The center spacer won't matter much as its job is to keep the wheel bearings apart. The outer spacers and ABS mount should all be a slide fit as well. Once the axle is torqued, everything is forced together tightly.

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Thanks. Everything is there and in place and torqued to specs. As mentionned I have the FSM and followed it. If a spacer was left out, the play would be significant. I'm talking about only enough play for a "click" but enough that I am able to see movement. The ease at which the axle slides thru the spacers and the bearings leads me to believe axle diameter is too small but that doesnt add up either.
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Brad, if everything is put together and torqued properly then the ONLY thing that will provide any looseness is a bad wheel bearing, again only if itís all put together and torqued properly. Bad wheel bearing !
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You could possibly have tightened the pinch bolts before tightening the 22mm bolt on the left. Otherwise it sounds like it is time for front wheel bearings.

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One other thing you might check is to make sure the (+) tolerance is not getting you. Check the length of the compression tube to make sure it is not a bit too long thus allowing the bearings to not seat all the way into the hub. That could explain why the spacers are slightly too large as well. HTH

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Another thought, the left and right spacers are different. Can't say I have tried but suspect it might be too thick if swapped. No matter, the ABS plate won't be correctly positioned.

I don't think there is a problem if the axle slides in easily. It will, if you hold your tongue right.
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Are you sure it's the wheel and not the whole front end? You could have either a bad bearing or loose steering stem bearings. This is more common.
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