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dumb plastic rivets . . .

Just finished a small maintenance job on the FJR, and man, I have really had it with those fiddly OEM plastic rivets.

If anybody has any better options instead of the OEM rivets, I'd appreciate your input here. Even plastic rivets of a type that work better (and fit) would be an improvement.

I'm about ready to install nut plates behind the panels, everywhere the plastic rivets go now, and then use self-tapping or machine screws instead of the cheap plastic rivets.

All advice is welcome here.
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Yeah, all of mine failed, and I bought some replacements, and man are they spendy, $2.69 each!!

And the OEM ones are still a little loose!!! Argh!!

If I find a pack, at a parts store, that are tighter, I will reply back.

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I have never had a problem with them. However, I do carry spares

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Discussed many times. Here's a sampling:

https://www.fjrowners.com/forums/11-...ic-rivets.html

https://www.fjrowners.com/forums/9-f...-3-rivets.html

https://www.fjrowners.com/forums/11-...ic-rivets.html

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dumb plastic rivets . . .

Rus,

Thanks for the links; I was just hoping for one FINE answer. To start my Searching solo, I did not even have a good name for the widgets, so now I know that much, at least.

With a bit of luck, maybe somebody here has a single good suggestion for a replacement fastener, maybe not even a plastic item. Gotta ask . . .

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No name on the bag and I can't find where I bought them last year, but do remember these are nylon and not plastic. More robust over those brittle stockers

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Rus,

Thanks for the links; I was just hoping for one FINE answer. To start my Searching solo, I did not even have a good name for the widgets, so now I know that much, at least.

With a bit of luck, maybe somebody here has a single good suggestion for a replacement fastener, maybe not even a plastic item. Gotta ask . . .

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IIRC there are 4 different wedgie thingies. If you want the general use ones one the fairings and panels, there are 2 different lengths. I order the longer ones and snip of the excess for the couple places that a short one must be used. I have also always recommended replacing the phillips ones with the push pin ones. Trust me on this.

There diameter you need is 6mm. The length? Pull one and measure it.
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I don't think those plastic fasteners are actually that dumb. Because they are so loose, they allow the fairing panels to move in relation to each other. This prevents the panels from cracking and breaking around the fastener holes due to vibration and flexing. Also, in the event of minor impact (bird strike), the shock through the fairing panels gets relieved by the fasteners shearing, instead of the panels breaking.

I know that on my earlier FJ1200's, where the fairings were more securely fastened, the fairings used to crack up after some time, and there were annoying buzzes and rattling noises generated by the fairings.
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I don't have a problem with the rivets...... You can find push pin type in lots of places.. if you order knock-offs from China they arent the best but they work (have a wee bit of molding flash on them). I prefer the OEM's.
The Phillips (JIS?) type I think are rather ingenious. No problem with them at all. Of course I've worked on a bunch of FJR's and it's all just second nature to me now. I can see why folks are frustrated but these push pin things are used on lots of bikes.
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