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If every country used the metric system of measurement the world would be a better place for everybody except carpenters.
So you don’t want to hear from a retired engineer, “the units don’t make one iota of difference.” SAE or metric, doesn’t matter.

The FJR doesn’t hold exactly 4 quarts by accident. 4.02 quarts because someone got tired of tweaking and someone else writing the manual has a sense of humor.

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So you donít want to hear from a retired engineer, ďthe units donít make one iota of difference.Ē SAE or metric, doesnít matter.

The FJR doesnít hold exactly 4 quarts by accident. 4.02 quarts because someone got tired of tweaking and someone else writing the manual has a sense of humor.
Well let's see here... .02 US quarts = .64 fl. ounces which = exactly 1.28 US tablespoons of precious lubrication. The criticality of this fractional amount is of course assuming that there wasn't 2.81 tablespoons of oil left within the running gear, filter, and passages after draining for 23.94 hrs. @ a minimum of 81.6 degrees F.
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I pour a gallon in mine plus 7 more ounces with a filter change -- 4.23 quarts per the manual. I start the bike and let it run long enough to make sure it doesn't leak. Ten minutes later it's below the top line. But the next day it's on the top line. I could go nuts trying to get it perfect by dribbling oil int it until it's "full." The next day it'd be over the window.
4.23 with the short filter.. tad more with the long filter. I prefer my fluid levels at max level.
Playing the sight glass game, unless you get out a stopwatch and do the check exactly the same every time, you will get different results. I'd prefer an old-fashioned dipstick check when cold.

You'd also have to overfill a ton to be harmful... more than the wee bit you're talking about.
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So you donít want to hear from a retired engineer, ďthe units donít make one iota of difference.Ē SAE or metric, doesnít matter.

The FJR doesnít hold exactly 4 quarts by accident. 4.02 quarts because someone got tired of tweaking and someone else writing the manual has a sense of humor.
Mine doesn't take exactly 4 quarts period. The manual states 4.23, which is exactly 4 liters. My ZRX takes exactly 3 liters. Being Japanese bikes, i don't see that as a coincidence.

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LOL well at 70 years old I don't think I'm interested in learning a new way to measure things. I think President Jimmy Carter tried to implement metric in the US when I was maybe 25 years old, but it didn't go over too well.
At 74 years old, I have spent over half of my adult life (29 out of 56 years) living and working outside the USA. Except for pressure units, I have no problem working with metric units.

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At 74 years old, I have spent over half of my adult life (29 out of 56 years) living and working outside the USA. Except for pressure units, I have no problem working with metric units.
I don't either. I buy milk by the gallon, liquor by the liter. I can deal with either. I'd like to buy oil by the liter just because I could buy 4 liters and dump them in the FJR. I could buy 3 of them and dump them in the ZRX. I'd have no motorcycle oil sitting on the shelf 'til next time. But then, my RV takes 7 quarts exactly. Dangit! And my car and truck take 4.6 and 6.6 quarts, neither of which converts to even liters.

Maybe they should let us buy it by the ounce. Or cc.

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Mine doesn't take exactly 4 quarts period. The manual states 4.23, which is exactly 4 liters. My ZRX takes exactly 3 liters. Being Japanese bikes, i don't see that as a coincidence.
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I find 4 quarts without new oil filter fills to the top of the sight glass. Add 4-6 oz for new oil filter.
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The units of measure do not matter if one understands what the units stand for. The distinction between a Newton and a kilogram, the distinction between pound-force and pound-mass.

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I recently put 4 qts in after an oil change, I believe it was Castrol synthetic, I usually don't check the sight glass until the last quart. I didn't see anything in the sight glass! Thought that was highly unusual as there was no spillage on the floor. Befuddled, I started adding the 5th quart, half way still nothing in the sight glass!?! Can't be! I poured a small amount onto a cloth. Darn near clear oil! It was always there in the sight glass just clear, I didn't pick up on it. Now, I had to partially drain to the top of the sight glass and wasted a 1/2 quart. No harm done, just not observant. I laughed because when I was adding the extra oil, I was thinking I lost count on such a simple count!!! Oh My....
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I recently put 4 qts in after an oil change, I believe it was Castrol synthetic, I usually don't check the sight glass until the last quart. I didn't see anything in the sight glass! Thought that was highly unusual as there was no spillage on the floor. Befuddled, I started adding the 5th quart, half way still nothing in the sight glass!?! Can't be! I poured a small amount onto a cloth. Darn near clear oil! It was always there in the sight glass just clear, I didn't pick up on it. Now, I had to partially drain to the top of the sight glass and wasted a 1/2 quart. No harm done, just not observant. I laughed because when I was adding the extra oil, I was thinking I lost count on such a simple count!!! Oh My....

Oh, I've never done anything like that before...well, none that I care to confess.
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