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When you mentioned helicoil I thought no use a Timesert then you answered my thought. Should work. I would still put a dab of locktite blue(red may be over kill) on the timesert.

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I have since been told that a Timesert cannot be installed into a blind hole..and I dont know enough to differ. I wonder if a helicoil liberally slathered in jb weld would work..
Some years ago I had a repair done on my other bike, the fine threads in one of the alloy castings had stripped. We took a piece of brass rod, turned up some coarse threads on the outside, drilled it lengthwise and tapped some fine threads on the inside to provide the fine adjustment the cover required. We then tapped the cover, inserted the insert with red loctite to retain it. I wonder if a skilled machinist could affect a similar repair to the clutch slave..

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You could go to the local CanTire and get a larger thread bleeder screw, get a blind hole tap..... maybe Speedbleeder would have a larger one.

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You could go to the local CanTire and get a larger thread bleeder screw, get a blind hole tap..... maybe Speedbleeder would have a larger one.
Ill play with the existing unit once its off the bike and the one from eBay is successfully installed. These things are rare, none available from Yamaha for 4-6 months...$200.00 cdn.

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It can be done but you do need enough depth. That would be the only drawback. Do a little research or call them. The one thing you would need to worry about is damaging the female taper. A time sert would probably work because you seal against the taper and not the threads. I just prefer timesert.

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I have used Speed Bleeders for years and they work well. I recently got an inline bleeder from Motion Pro (https://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0143). It costs about the same as one speed bleeder. I will try to use it for the first time tonight on a friend's bike.
Wow, that looks great. I will get one, just for when I bleed friends cars that don't have speed bleeders. Please post about it after you use it.

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Bob, one of the things I do is put a wrap or two of Teflon tape on the threads before installing them as they seem to leak around the threads if not. At least that’s been my experience. I cut a piece of tape off and then cut it down the middle, you just need enough to overlap the ends of the tape a bit.

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Bob, one of the things I do is put a wrap or two of Teflon tape on the threads before installing them as they seem to leak around the threads if not. At least thats been my experience. I cut a piece of tape off and then cut it down the middle, you just need enough to overlap the ends of the tape a bit.
I thought the purpose of the thread sealant was to prevent air leakage past the threads. When the replacement slave arrives, Im going to finger tighten a yamaha bleed screw in, mark the exposed threads to show how far in it was threaded, then compare that to a speedbleeder to confirm how much of the sealed threads get screwed in.
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Sorry for your troubles Bob, but if it helps you're not alone. Last fall I put a set of speedbleeders on my F150 as I have always done for all our 4-wheeled vehicles. The one I installed front left was particularly difficult to screw in, I was afraid I had messed something up b/c when I replaced the fluid it spewed out from that one. I had to really grunt it down to get it to seat. I don't think it was a thread problem, seemed to me at the time to be more of an old sealant thing. I vowed then when I install any more I would clean the factory sealant off and apply my own.

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Speed bleeders are still a reach-stretch issue where you have to pump the breaks while using the speed bleeders. I like the Mighty-Vac solutions that make it a 1-person, everything-at-the-bleeder task. Get vacuum going, open the bleeder, flush as much as you want from the reservoir, close the bleeder. You can then use it on all your vehicles where even stretching won't work so you still need a helper if using speed bleeders.

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Ha, never had a helper yet. Remember Speedbleeders have an auto shut-off so no reachin and stretchin to multitask. I'm in the other camp, we often have issues with Mighty-Vacs at tech days, but half of that is air leakage around the bleeder threads no matter what you're using.
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