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Old 06-11-2013, 10:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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And i am as frustrated as all ****.

Removed all non OEM wiring last weekend left over from the PO. Tested bike on the Saturday and all was fine.
Sunday, bike cranked over but would not fire, load tested the battery and was down to 9 volts. Replaced with new battery.

Battery installed and the same dam thing, bike cranks, i think it is going to fire but no.
Can these bike get flooded with petrol?

So i am back riding the KLR till i can work this out

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Old 06-11-2013, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Any error codes showing up?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No error codes.

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Can these bike get flooded with petrol?
There can be a similar condition.
Hold the throttle wide open while you try and crank it over, takes awhile.
You may well flatten the battery trying it.

It happens if you start the bike and don't let it warm up full, then leave the bike sit around for awhile.
I think it occurs more if you ever do happen use ethanol ( which you shouldn't )

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STILL, I had to treat it as if it was flooded...the Radman Solution. Fully charged battery, turn on the key, hold the throttle WFO and crank it. It burbled and sputtered and finally "caught". Once it was running I made sure to bring the engine up to operating temp before shutting it off. After that, no problem.
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short start syndrome site://fjrforum.com
throttle wide open site://fjrforum.com
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Helping your battery:
It usually takes about 30 minutes of riding for the charging system to recover the battery from the start load. Using a Battery Tender at night helps remove that recovery load off a bike that's used for a lot of short haul riding.

This may or may not help with your current situation but it's worth noting.
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Can these bike get flooded with petrol?
Yes, the FJR can and does. I've seen it happen. Just like Queensland Ken suggested.

I swear by Battery Tenders too. Especially since you don't want to start a bike unless you're going to ride it, taking it all the way through a heat/cool cycle.
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Have you checked the fuel injector fuse? Also, there's a connector for the fuel pump on the right side of the bike below the side cover that you might want to check. It's supposed to be disconnected before running any diagnostics, which is the only reason I know it's there. Perhaps it's loose or got some moisture in it?
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Oh, I also read somewhere that if the rollover sensor gets triggered, it can shut the fuel pump off. There should be a diagnostic code to check for that, but I don't know what it is without checking the service manual.
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Thanks everyone, will be looking at it tonight.

The new battery i bought from a retail battery dealer was to wide for the bike, it fit into the holder (just) but i could not turn the front wheel. You guessed it; the forks hit the battery.

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Sounds a bit odd Johnno. The battery holder is a tubular metal frame, with a plastic liner that more or less completely encloses the battery, so don't understand how the new one fits, but still fouls the forks.
Any signs that, along with the random wiring 'improvements', the PO modded the holder?
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