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No More Rotella T and what's this?

I've always used Rotella T and recently could not find any, so I bought the T4. I've read this is the replacement formula. It should be OK for the FJR, but I'm not an oil genius. Anyone have any insight?

Another rub, I could not find the M1-110 oil filter either, but did see the M1-110A with fancy lime green highlighting on the box. I was reaching for my tin foil hat, but figured this is just more marketing. I think this filter should work just as well. It's supposed to be better, or longer lasting...
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I've always used Rotella T and recently could not find any, so I bought the T4. I've read this is the replacement formula. It should be OK for the FJR, but I'm not an oil genius. Anyone have any insight?

Another rub, I could not find the M1-110 oil filter either, but did see the M1-110A with fancy lime green highlighting on the box. I was reaching for my tin foil hat, but figured this is just more marketing. I think this filter should work just as well. It's supposed to be better, or longer lasting...
not sure about the filter
couldnt find the ' micron filtering ' spec

most in the 20 - 30 micron range
altho there are some that can filter down to 5 micron

http://gear4wheels.com/best-oil-filter/#tab-con-3

note there are specs for most entries
some at 25microns

some down to 4 microns

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I found a VOA on the T4 10w30

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ub...30#Post4304492

The old M1-110 filter:

This is a well-constructed filter, which Mobil 1 touts as having 98% single-pass particle filtration at 10 to 20 microns, and multiple-pass efficiency of 95% (vs. 80% for the average filter).

The new claims 99% efficiency based on 30 micron filtration, but I have not found the filter spec either. I just need to order the Yammy filters.

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Look on Amazon for the filters. Right now I'm using HiFlo Filtro HF204 (3rd Gen FJR) currently $7.89 ea so I buy 4 or 5 at a time. I read somewhere that they actually manufacture the oil filters for K&N but have no way of confirming or disproving that.
Anyways at that price I can afford to swap out every oil change instead of the recommended every-other as stated in the manual.


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According to the Rotella web site (http://rotella.shell.com/products/ro...rotection.html) T4 15W-40 meets the Yamaha-specified requirement of JASO MA so you should be fine with it.

Note that T4 10W-30 doesn't meet the MA specification and (at least per my 2015 owner's manual) Yamaha doesn't recommend 30 weight oil.

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After a long absence from the shelves I found Mobil-1 15W-50 in 5 quart jugs at Walmart the other day. Thats what is in my FJR now.

No, the clutch works just fine. Also in dirtbikes which I have been abusing with this stuff the past 17 years.

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I did get the Rotella T4 15W40 and saw the MA2 specification on the label, so that is why I picked it up. I may look at the M1 15W50 too. It's been so hot (104F yesterday), a heavier oil may be a good idea.

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After a long absence from the shelves I found Mobil-1 15W-50 in 5 quart jugs at Walmart the other day. Thats what is in my FJR now.

No, the clutch works just fine. Also in dirtbikes which I have been abusing with this stuff the past 17 years.
Your 15W-50 Mobil1 would have no issue with a clutch anyway. It doesn't have the friction modifier in it.

The Mobil1 5W-30, 0W-20, and 0W-30 DO have friction modifiers, (it says 'energy conserving' on the label). That's like putting moly grease with PTFE on your clutch plates. In the half dozen or so bikes I've seen with slipping clutches, evidenced by the engine slipping under full throttle... all had been owned by someone that didn't check for that designation and one unknown. I know there are probably countless riders running car oil, with the energy conserving additive, in their bikes though. Perhaps they don't hammer the throttle enough to make the clutch slip... but the one time I ran it in a dirtbike by mistake... that clutch was toast almost instantly. I pulled out the plates and soaked them in solvent, everything. I couldn't get them back. I had to replace the whole pack.

I'm running T6 in my tractor. It looks like good synthetic 5W-40 to me, and the price is right. I was going to swap it into my diesel truck next. By the letters on the bottle, I wouldn't be afraid to run it in my streetbikes.
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I'm running T6 in my tractor. It looks like good synthetic 5W-40 to me, and the price is right. I was going to swap it into my diesel truck next. By the letters on the bottle, I wouldn't be afraid to run it in my streetbikes.

Been running T6 & Bosch D3323 since the bike was new.

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Shell have changed the packaging. They have brought Rotella T into line with their other products by giving it a series number.

T4 is the original "T".

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