Rear Axle Corrosion

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By Boggs on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:29 pm:  View Boggs's Profile Search for other posts by Boggs Edit this post

As I was pulling the rear wheel for a tire change I got a less than pleasant surprise, see below:

Rear Axle
and,

Rear hub

Maybe not a big deal, still a bit disconcerting. The bike's about 7 1/2 months old, has 11,300+ miles and, as far as I know has not been ridden in salt (I don't think they salt the roads in Arkansas). This is the second tire change, but the first time I personally have had the wheel off. My question is has anyone else seen this kind of occurence? 

By Liquidsilver on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:45 pm:  View Liquidsilver's Profile Search for other posts by Liquidsilver Edit this post

I think the first pic is just plain under the nut crud, probably no big deal.

Is that second picture rust on the inside of the dust seal? Mine didn't look like that.

All the more reason I'm rather liberal with the grease upon reassembly.

I'd clean it all up with WD40, grease it up and periodically check those rear bearings. 

By Terrysig on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:27 pm:  View Terrysig's Profile Search for other posts by Terrysig Edit this post

Boggs,

How much rain riding?

Terry 

By Boggs on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:32 pm:  View Boggs's Profile Search for other posts by Boggs Edit this post

The second pic is the left outside of the hub with the nut, washer, and axle removed.

Liquidsivler -although I'll ask my dealer about it, I suspect your right - I'm just going to go heavy on the BelRay.

As far as rain is concerned, I've done a bit. Had a fair amount of rain riding on a Deal's Gap trip (much to my chargrin). Otherwise, I generally will commute in the rain, but normally not pleasure riding. 

By Boggs on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:35 pm:  View Boggs's Profile Search for other posts by Boggs Edit this post

Oh yeah, forgot to mention Liquidsilver, rear tire removal was a piece of cake, much easier than the Bandit, thanks. 

By Terrysig on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:41 pm:  View Terrysig's Profile Search for other posts by Terrysig Edit this post

Boggs,

Yeah was wondering if you didn't just get
a "dry" re-assembly at your last tire change and then happen to hit a bunch of rain between then
and now. Sounds like that may be the case.

Terry 

By Boggs on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 11:50 pm:  View Boggs's Profile Search for other posts by Boggs Edit this post

Terry, could be, it was a H o n d a shop (didn't have a choice at that point). 

By Liquidsilver on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 12:13 am:  View Liquidsilver's Profile Search for other posts by Liquidsilver Edit this post

Oh yeah Boggs, I remember your wet trip to Deal's Gap... I was there at the same time... rained the whole danm time! Wifey and I ended up trucking the bike to Arkansas for the one remaining day of our ride. 

By Boggs on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 01:43 am:  View Boggs's Profile Search for other posts by Boggs Edit this post

Hear! Hear! Let's have none of that on the Mena ride. 

By Liquidsilver on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 05:08 am:  View Liquidsilver's Profile Search for other posts by Liquidsilver Edit this post

Here! Here! Not there, there!  

By Slugger on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 08:42 am:  View Slugger's Profile Search for other posts by Slugger Edit this post

Thats why I spend $5 on a tub of greece and spent 6 hours on my bike so I don't get the above problems.

Manufactures of cars bikes etc olny use very little greece.

Slugg 

By Liquidsilver on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 09:11 am:  View Liquidsilver's Profile Search for other posts by Liquidsilver Edit this post

I've been to France, England, Italy, Switzerland, Jordan, Israel and Egypt, but I've never been to Greece.

Bod-ump-bum.

Just joshin' slugger... but you're right.

I have a friend that will take all of the bearings out of a brand new bike, and pack 'em with grease. A little extreme, but he can show you how dry the bearings come from the factory. 

By Sherlock on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:44 pm:  View Sherlock's Profile Search for other posts by Sherlock Edit this post

Is there a right or wrong grease to use for this ??? or any grease?. 

By Gr8eyes on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 08:04 pm:  View Gr8eyes's Profile Search for other posts by Gr8eyes Edit this post

A good one to use is Belray waterproof Grease. This is what our local Yammie dealer uses,

exclusively.


Glenn 

By Woody on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 09:35 pm:  View Woody's Profile Search for other posts by Woody Edit this post

High temp grease is needed so it doesn’t over heat and turn in to liquid.

Woody  

By Grumpy on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 10:00 pm:  View Grumpy's Profile Search for other posts by Grumpy Edit this post

Liquidsilver,

Greece, since you've never been, you should go.........best yogurt and honey you ever tasted!! The grilled octopus is unbelievable!

Santorini is spectacularly one of the most beautiful places in the world!!

Swimming is to be experienced....you can see the bottom in 25 feet of water.

Try it you'll like it! 

By Liquidsilver on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:30 am:  View Liquidsilver's Profile Search for other posts by Liquidsilver Edit this post

I've never heard of needing hi-temp grease on wheel bearings.

Brake pins, yes. But axles and wheel bearings, no.

Of course I'm not as wise as Solomon or Barbarian, but that's been my experience, anyway.

Grumpy, maybe I'll get to Greece someday... I hope so.

Cheers. 

By Bounce on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 05:43 pm:  View Bounce's Profile Search for other posts by Bounce Edit this post

Rear drive splines should be checked occasionally too. During a tire change is as good a time as any. H)onda Moly 60's the ticket according to "those who know". 

By Fjr13r on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:05 pm:  View Fjr13r's Profile Search for other posts by Fjr13r Edit this post

I have used brush-on, anti-seize paste on my wheel axles and axle threads with good results. Moly 60 (60% moly)is one of the best moly pastes out there. Really tenacious and protects metal against the sheer forces splines drives are subjected to. Ask BMW owners about stripped spline drives. They recommend and use Moly 60 almost exclusively. 

By Liquidsilver on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:00 pm:  View Liquidsilver's Profile Search for other posts by Liquidsilver Edit this post

We can't really argue about chain lube here, can we?

Guess we'll just have to start a flame war on types of grease to use. 


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